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Techdirt Has Again Been Removed From Bing And (Mostly) DuckDuckGo

from the not-this-again dept

Welp, here we go again. Last month I wrote about how Techdirt had been deleted from both Bing and DuckDuckGo. Over on the discussion at HackerNews, DDG’s CEO and founder, Gabriel Weinberg, jumped in to the conversation to note that this wasn’t intentional (which we never suspected it was). The resulting conversation on HackerNews is actually pretty interesting, as it appears there was some level of misunderstanding among many users about how much DuckDuckGo relies on Bing for its underlying web search.

Either way, a few hours later DuckDuckGo added back… a single link(!) to Techdirt’s front page, which we mentioned in an update. The next day, I heard from a couple people who said they had reached out to people at Microsoft, and I was told that this sometimes happen, and that the Bing team will eventually fix it (though it might happen faster if something gets public attention). Either way, about a day after I had written about Techdirt being erased, we were back in both Bing and DuckDuckGo and I considered it a one-off bug that had been fixed.

But… it’s back. I happened to just check on Bing and saw that we’re gone again (though now there’s also a big obnoxious box trying to get me to chat):

But, this time it’s weird, because it says there are 2,030 results (should be a lot more!) and then says “some results have been removed,” but it shows no results at all. If you click on the “2” at the bottom, it just takes you right back to this exact same view.

As for DDG, it still displays the one single link to our homepage and nothing else:

While that may be better than nothing, it’s pretty close to nothing. We do still get a fair bit of traffic from people searching for particular stories and now neither Bing nor DDG will send people to those stories. I did some searches on our most popular articles, like the Elon speedrun and the “you’re wrong about 230” and… all the results send people to other sites talking about our article.

Which isn’t really great.

Meanwhile, Google returns 94,900 results which is much closer to our total number of pages.

I’d really like for there to be real competition for Google out there in the search market, but it shouldn’t require me having to nag a trillion dollar company in Redmond every few weeks to put me back into their index.

Filed Under: bing, search index, search results, techdirt
Companies: duckduckgo, microsoft, techdirt

Yet Another Company Sues Google For Not Being In Google's Index

from the this-won't-go-far dept

Eric Goldman has the details on how Ascentive (a company that many in the tech community accuse of being a scam) has sued Google for removing Ascentive from Google’s search index. There’s a separate complaint about trademarks and AdWords on competitive ads, but that’s an issue that’s been covered so often, we’ll ignore it in this case. Instead, what’s interesting is the claim that Google removing Ascentive from its index is somehow a violation of Ascentive’s rights. Of course, previous cases have shown that you have no legal right to have Google rank you where you think it’s appropriate — and if Google decides to remove you entirely, that’s its prerogative.

Goldman notes that Ascentive’s claim is a bit different than such claims in the past (but no more likely to get anywhere), noting that the refusal to list Ascentive’s site is a trademark violation, because “consumers expect to see the trademark owner in organic search results for the trademark and therefore consumers will be actionably confused if the trademark owner doesn’t appear there.” Talk about twisting the intention of trademark law! It seems unlikely that such a claim gets very far, but it will be fun to see how the court responds to it.

Filed Under: index, search index, trademark
Companies: ascentive, google

Did Yahoo Delete The Pirate Bay From Search Results?

from the making-friends?--or-enemies? dept

There’s a lot of buzz going around concerning reports that Yahoo has deleted The Pirate Bay from its search index, though it appears not everyone is seeing it. There hasn’t been an official explanation just yet — and it could be an accidental move or simply a hiccup, but it raises some questions about Yahoo’s search index when such a site disappears. This is especially true given the controversial (deserved or not) nature of The Pirate Bay, and the efforts by the entertainment industry to shut the site down. Initially, we’re willing to give Yahoo the benefit of the doubt, but a full explanation of what happened would be useful at this point.

Filed Under: missing sites, pirate bay, search index
Companies: pirate bay, yahoo