JavaFX for the Enterprise - Working Group (original) (raw)

Tobias Bley tobi at ultramixer.com
Wed Oct 17 08:35:07 PDT 2012

Why should we reinvent the wheel? Oracle has shown demos for JavaFX on iOS, Android and Windows two years ago on JavaOne 2011. So there seams to be already a solution there!

Where are the guys here who created these demos n JavaOne 2011?

Best regards, Tobi

Am 17.10.2012 um 16:39 schrieb Mario Torre <neugens.limasoftware at gmail.com>:

2012/10/17 Daniel Zwolenski <zonski at gmail.com>:

So Oracle as an organization doesn't think JavaFX can be a player in the web/enterprise space and is backing HTML5. I don't agree, JavaFX has the * potential* to be better. But it's a long way behind and gotten off to a rocky start; there's a hell of a lot of work to be done and the current rate, strategy and direction are not going to be nearly enough.

Oracle is a big corporation with many different divisions. The left arm doesn't know what the right is doing. So let's put aside 'oracle' for a moment. I want to know: what does the JavaFX team think? Do you want to go up against HTML5 for the client space, or just settle for a spot on the fringe? Well, you know, somehow there is people that think HTML 5 has a market and other people that think JavaFX is the future, perhaps those both have a market and a future? It makes a lot of sense to support one product and the other, and it especially makes sense to support one over the other in some context at times: if you think rationally there are limited resources even in huge corporations like Oracle; I can see why some management folks make decision like this, they probably go where they think there is money, and I can also see how they piss everybody else off by doing this ;) There is only one solution for this, once the code is out, put your own time in it to get it where nobody else has before. No, really. Seriously. When Richard ask you to contribute, he really means it. And it's not about Oracle being crazy here, every Open Source project works the same way, really. People do choices, somebody doesn't agree, then just grab the code and fix what's wrong... Whoops... now I hear you say it! Where's the code? This is really a question for Richard then :) But really, this is the only thing to worry about and that we need to keep asking aloud, all the rest will come by. [1] Cheers, Mario [1] And to be honest, I love this thread even if I think the questions are all the other way around, because it shows there's a community out there that really wants this code to be out sooner. -- pgp key: http://subkeys.pgp.net/ PGP Key ID: 80F240CF Fingerprint: BA39 9666 94EC 8B73 27FA FC7C 4086 63E3 80F2 40CF IcedRobot: www.icedrobot.org Proud GNU Classpath developer: http://www.classpath.org/ Read About us at: http://planet.classpath.org OpenJDK: http://openjdk.java.net/projects/caciocavallo/ Please, support open standards: http://endsoftpatents.org/

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