[Python-3000] Py3k release schedule worries (original) (raw)

Guido van Rossum guido at python.org
Tue Dec 19 01:52:28 CET 2006

On 12/18/06, Thomas Wouters <thomas at python.org> wrote:

On 12/18/06, Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org> wrote: > I am getting worried about the Py3k release schedule.

Hah, only now? I've been worried every time I archive 20-unread-message conversations in the python-3000 list -- which it feels like I've been doing every two days for months :)

Me too, I just didn't have the guts to bring it up before. :-)

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> Perhaps the most controversial issue that I'd like to tackle is a > standard library reorganization. This is so controversial that I don't > even know where to begin. Maybe the refactoring tool will be able to > help and can automatically convert imports using old locations to > imports using new locations? Then if the new locations are also made > available in Python 2.6, we'd even have an upgrade path. Who wants to > help out here? There's a huge amount of work and if it is left to me > it won't get done.

I'm afraid that this problem just needs a decision: How do you (Guido, not python-3000) want to organize the standard library? Maybe you already made that decision and it was in one of the threads I never read -- if so, sorry :P Anyway, there's lots to be said for all approaches to organizing the standard library, so I think you should just decide between java-like (deeply structured), the current (unstructured, but with modules renamed to fit styleguide, possibly with a 'stdlib' package covering all) or inbetween. I favour second option without package; the other two options will no doubt generate much discussion about how deep the structure should be and what categories it should cover. I'd rather spend time renaming modules than archiving threads :-)

Ok, so be it. Let this be a pronouncement -- the only stdlib reorg we're doing will be (a) deleting silly old stuff; (b) rename modules that don't conform to the current module/package naming convention, like StringIO, cPickle or UserDict.

-- --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)

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