[Python-3000] special method lookup [was Re: Confused about getattr() and special methods] (original) (raw)

Nick Coghlan ncoghlan at gmail.com
Tue Sep 4 12:27:49 CEST 2007

Georg Brandl wrote:

Thomas Heller schrieb:

IIUC, in py3k, classic classes do not exist any longer, so the metaclass line has no effect anyway. Is this behaviour intended? It is another incarnation of special methods being looked up on the class, not the instance. This was always the behavior with new-style classes, see the thread at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-3000/2007-March/006261.html for a previous discussion. I think we should tackle this issue now and make sure the decided resolution is consistently applied throughout Python.

This issue came up when implementing PEP 343 as well - because the with statement is just syntactic sugar without any dedicated opcodes, enter/exit are accessed via a conventional attribute lookup opcode. So unlike the special methods that use a C-level slot in the type object, these two operations can be affected by instance attributes and getattr.

However, Guido did say at the time that he was OK with the effect of instance attributes on special method lookups being formally undefined and implementation dependent. I wasn't too worried either way - mucking with special methods outside the scope of 'provide this on your class to support operation X' has long been a pretty dubious exercise.

Cheers, Nick.

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