[Python-3000] PEP 3137: Immutable Bytes and Mutable Buffer (original) (raw)

Guido van Rossum guido at python.org
Thu Sep 27 01:03:12 CEST 2007


[PEP 3137]

> Open Issue: I'm undecided on whether indexing bytes and buffer > objects should return small ints (like the bytes type in 3.0a1, and > like lists or array.array('B')), or bytes/buffer objects of length 1 > (like the str type). The latter (str-like) approach will ease porting > code from Python 2.x; but it makes it harder to extract values from a > bytes array.

On 9/26/07, Brett Cannon <brett at python.org> wrote:

How much do you care about making the 2 -> 3 transition easy? If you don't go the str way then comparisons like bytes[0] == b"A" won't work unless you allow comparisons between ints and length 1 bytes/buffers. Extracting a single item is not horrendous if you pass it to int().

Personally I say go with the list-like semantics. Having the following code return false seems odd (but not ridiculous) to me:: stuff = bytes([0, 1]) stuff[1] = 42 stuff[1] == 42 So unless int comparisons are allowed I am -0 on the str-like semantics.

int comparisons would stick out like a sore thumb, especially since they can only be reasonably made to work on 1-byte strings.

I'm still undecided (despite Marcin's eloquent argument for ints as bytes) but I'm open for votes for this case.

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