[python-committers] Moderation of the Python community (original) (raw)

Victor Stinner vstinner at redhat.com
Wed Oct 17 19:48:05 EDT 2018

Ok, I proposed an update to my PEP to explain the process to ban a core developer: https://github.com/python/peps/pull/810/files

Victor Le jeu. 18 oct. 2018 à 01:23, Victor Stinner <vstinner at redhat.com> a écrit :

Le jeu. 18 oct. 2018 à 00:16, Ethan Furman <ethan at stoneleaf.us> a écrit : > > On 10/17/2018 03:05 PM, Victor Stinner wrote: > > > Oh, by the way, should we have two different choices: remove the > > commit bit from a core dev (downgrade a core dev as a regular > > contributor) and ban a core dev? > > No. If it comes to this, then the dev needs to be banned. I would not > expect this to happen except maybe once in what's left of my lifetime. Ok. In that case, I would suggest to ban the core dev and drop their commit bit. I'm not sure that we want to keep a banned user as part of core developers. Extract of my PEP: "Core developers are also expected to be exemplary when it comes to the Code of Conduct." Let's say that a core dev is banned for, let's say 6 months. What happens next? Can we reconsider later to open a vote to "promote" again the developer if they proved that they changed their behaviour? Again, I'm really dislike the idea of banning someone for their own life. IMHO that would be either unfair and counter-productive. It's really difficult to find core developers, so we should remain open if people change their behaviour. Moreover, banning someone for life puts more pressure on the people who decide on the ban. It's way easier to decide to only ban someone for 1 week rather than banning someone for their own life. I proposed to start with a ban of 1 week if discussion and warnings didn't work. I suggest to drop the commit bit at the first ban (of 1 week). Again, to be consistent with "be exemplary when it comes to the Code of Conduct". Context: I would like to formalize everything in my PEP :-) https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8015/ Note: I'm really not comfortable to talk about banning someone. But it seems like we all are on the same page, such case is really exceptional and will only be the very last resort if all other attempts failed. Victor

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