Fun with call/cc (was RE: [Python-Dev] Stackless Python (original) (raw)

Eric S. Raymond esr@thyrsus.com
Mon, 7 Aug 2000 18:24:03 -0400

Tim Peters <tim_one@email.msn.com>:

Doesn't mean call/cc sucks, but language designers have been avoiding it in vast numbers -- despite that the Scheme folks have been pushing it (& pushing it, & pushing it) in every real language they flee to .

Yes, we have. I haven't participated in conspiratorial hugggermugger with other ex-Schemers, but I suspect we'd all answer pretty much the same way. Lots of people have been avoiding call/cc not because it sucks but but because the whole area is very hard to think about even if you have the right set of primitives.

BTW, lest anyone get the wrong idea, I'm (mostly) in favor of it! It can't possibly be sold on any grounds other than that "it works, for real Python programmers with real programming problems they can't solve in other ways", though. Christian has been doing a wonderful (if slow-motion ) job of building that critical base of real-life users.

And it's now Christian's job to do the next stop, supplying up-to-date documentation on his patch and proposal as a PEP.

Suggestion: In order to satisfy the BDFL's conservative instincts, perhaps it would be better to break the Stackless patch into two pieces -- one that de-stack-izes ceval, and one that implements new language features. That way we can build a firm base for later exploration.

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