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Thomas Wouters thomas@xs4all.net
Fri, 25 Aug 2000 18:32:24 +0200

On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 12:20:59PM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:

I found Tim's message in the archives, so I'm curious whether those missing python-dev messages are also in the archives? If so, that's a good indication that Mailman is working, so the problem is upstream from there. I'm also not seeing any errors in the log files that would indicate a Mailman problem.

Well, I saw one message from Guido, where he was replying to someone who was replying to Mark. Guido claimed he hadn't seen that original message (Mark's), though I am certain I did see it. The recollections on missing messages on my part are much more vague, though, so it still could be attributed to dementia (of people, MUA's or MTA's ;)

I'll keep a closer eye on it, though.

I have seen some weird behavior from Postfix on that machine: occasionally messages to my python.org addr, which should be forwarded to my beopen.com addr just don't get forwarded. They get dropped in my spool file. I have no idea why, and the mail logs don't give a clue. I don't know if any of that is related, although I did just upgrade Postfix to the latest revision. And there are about 3k messages sitting in Postfix's queue waiting to go out though.

Sendmail, baby! We're currently running postfix on a single machine (www.hal2001.org, which also does the Mailman for it) mostly because our current Sendmail setup has one huge advantage: it works. And it works fine. We just don't want to change the sendmail rules or fiddle with out mailertable-setup, but it works ! :-)

Sigh. I really don't want to spend the next week debugging this stuff. ;/

So don't. Do what any proper developer would do: proclaim there isn't enough info (there isn't, unless you can find the thread I'm talking about, above. I'll see if I can locate it for you, since I think I saved the entire thread with 'must check this' in the back of my head) and don't fix it until it happens again. I do not think this is Mailman related, though it might be python.org-mailman related (as in, the postfix or the link on that machine, or something.)

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