[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 279 revisited (original) (raw)

holger krekel pyth@devel.trillke.net
Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:35:10 +0200

On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 11:19:18AM +0200, Alex Martelli wrote:

Of course, if a noun was to be chosen instead, 'enumeration' and 'itemization' would be horrid (long and cumbersome), but maybe some other alternatives could be more appealing. 'items', for example, would be appealing to me personally (by the already mentioned "rough analogy" with a dictionary's .items method -- which turns others off by being only rough and not exact, so that D.items() and items(D) would be different sequences of pairs, albeit with similar structures, for just about any dict D).

I would like to transform the 'rough' analogy into an exact analogy :-)

If you consider lists to be a special dictionary with implicit keys we can define 'items' to generate (key,value) pairs for a collection so that 

for key,value in items(collection):
    collection[key]==value

holds no matter if collection is a list or a dictionary,

Additionally

items(dict)==dict.items()

would be satisfied, so the analogy is better than 'rough'.

btw, i usually don't need an extra numbering for my dictionaries. If really in need i would write

list = dict.items()
for index,item in items(list): ...

using the above semantics. Usually i use a list in the first place.

But i am afraid i am too late if this is the final voting...

holger

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