[Python-Dev] PEP for Better Control of Nested Lexical Scopes (original) (raw)

Just van Rossum just at letterror.com
Tue Feb 21 22:01:55 CET 2006

Mark Russell wrote:

PEP 227 mentions using := as a rebinding operator, but rejects the idea as it would encourage the use of closures. But to me it seems more elegant than some special keyword, especially is it could also replace the "global" keyword. It doesn't handle things like "x += y" but I think you could deal with that by just writing "x := x + y".

Actually, it could handle += just fine, since that operator has written "rebinding" all over it...

I'd be +1 on := (and augmented assignment being rebinding), but the argument against it (if I recall correctly) was that rebinding should be a property of the name, not of the operator. Yet "declaring" a name local is also done trough an operator: a = 1 means a is local (unless it was declared global). It can definitely be argued either way.

Btw, PJE's "crazy" idea (.name, to rebind an outer name) was proposed before, but Guido wanted to reserve .name for a (Pascal-like) 'with' statement. Hmm, http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2004-March/043545.html confirms that, although it wasn't in response to a rebinding syntax. So maybe it wasn't proposed before after all...

Just

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