[Python-Dev] Using and binding relative names (was Re: PEP forBetter Control of Nested Lexical Scopes) (original) (raw)

Almann T. Goo almann.goo at gmail.com
Sun Feb 26 21:28:56 CET 2006

On 2/26/06, Alex Martelli <aleaxit at gmail.com> wrote:

For the record: I detest the existing 'global' (could I change but ONE thing in Python, that would be the one -- move from hated 'global' to a decent namespace use, e.g. glob.x=23 rather than global x;x=23), and I'd detest a similar 'outer' just as intensely (again, what I'd like instead is a decent namespace) -- so I might well be sympathetic to your POV, if I could but understand it;-).

I would prefer a more explicit means to accomplish this too (I sort of like the prefix dot in this regard), however the fundamental problem with allowing this lies in how accessing and binding names works in Python today (sorry if I sound like a broken record in this regard).

Unless we change how names can be accessed/re-bound (very bad for backwards compatibility), any proposal that forces explicit name spaces would have to allow for both accessing "simple names" (like just "var") and names via attribute access (name spaces) like "glob.var"--I think this adds the problem of introducing obscurity to the language.

-Almann

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