[Python-Dev] xturtle.py a replacement for turtle.py(!?) ATTENTION PLEASE! (original) (raw)

Gregor Lingl glingl at aon.at
Thu Jun 29 00:37:49 CEST 2006

Fredrik Lundh schrieb:

Gregor Lingl wrote:

What a shame!! An immanent bug, persistent for years now! Is this what Anthony Baxter calls "the most solid Python release ever" do you really think stuff like this helps your cause ? Perhaps it dosn't help the turtle - cause. (I confess, I was a bit upset, please excuse!)

But please let me clarify one point.

I made xturtle.py and that was a big effort. And I offer it to replace turtle.py. I do this because I'm a Python enthusiast and I want a better Python. (And I know very well that my contribution is rather marginal). We all, I think, have this motive. And of course it was my fault to submit it too late.

So, if you can't accept that offer - now, or even ever - , because it contradicts your rules, that's o.k. But it's not 'my cause'. I concieve it to be the community's cause.

I, for my part, can and will use xturtle.py, knowing and having the experience, that it is far superior to turtle.py. So I have no problem. And I'll offer it for download from the xturtle-webpage or from wherever you suggest. So it will be freely available. (Perhaps a sourceforge project would be appropriate. Give me your advice, please)

The only point is, that it leaves Python's turtle.py an (imho) unsatisfactory solution. See for instance Vern Ceder judgment: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/edu-sig/2006-June/006625.html

Regards, Gregor

Final remark: I know, that my English is not very good. So I feel, that possibly I have not complete control over the 'undertones' of my writing. If sombody feels offended, please excuse, that was not my intent.

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