[Python-Dev] with_traceback (original) (raw)

Andrew Dalke dalke at dalkescientific.com
Mon Feb 26 23:38:05 CET 2007

Guido's talk at PyCon said:

Use raise E(arg).withtraceback(tb) instead of raise E, arg, tb

That seems strange to me because of the mutability. Looking through the back discussions on this list I see Guido commented: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-3000/2007-February/005689.html

Returning the mutated object is acceptable here because the dominant use case is creating and raising an exception in one go:

raise FooException().withtraceback()

The 3 argument raise statement is rarely used, in my experience. I believe most don't even know it exists, excepting mostly advanced Python programmers and language lawyers.

My concern when I saw Guido's keynote was the worry that people do/might write code like this

NO_END_OF_RECORD = ParserError("Cannot find end of record")

def parse_record(input_file): ... raise NO_END_OF_RECORD ...

That is, create instances at the top of the module, to be used later. This code assume that the NO_END_OF_RECORD exception instance is never modified.

If the traceback is added to its traceback attribute then I see two problems if I were to write code like the above:

As an example of code which is affected by this, see pyparsing, which has code that looks like

class Token(ParserElement): """Abstract ParserElement subclass, for defining atomic matching patterns."" " def init( self ): super(Token,self).init( savelist=False ) self.myException = ParseException("",0,"",self)

 ....

class Literal(Token): .... def parseImpl( self, instring, loc, doActions=True ): if (instring[loc] == self.firstMatchChar and (self.matchLen==1 or instring.startswith(self.match,loc)) ): return loc+self.matchLen, self.match #~ raise ParseException( instring, loc, self.errmsg ) exc = self.myException exc.loc = loc exc.pstr = instring raise exc

The "Literal" and other token classes are part of the grammar definition and usually exist in module scope.

There's another question I came up with. If the exception already has a traceback, will that traceback be overwritten if the instance is reraised? Consider this code, loosly derived from os._execvpe

import os, sys _PATH = ["here", "there", "elsewhere"]

def open_file_on_path(name):

If nothing exists, raises an exception based on the

first attempt

saved_err = None saved_tb = None for dirname in _PATH: try: return open(os.path.join(dirname, name)) except Exception, err: if not saved_err: saved_err = err saved_tb = sys.exc_info()[2] raise saved_err.class, saved_err, saved_tb

open_file_on_path("spam")

which generates this

Traceback (most recent call last): File "raise.py", line 19, in open_file_on_path("spam") File "raise.py", line 11, in open_file_on_path return open(os.path.join(dirname, name)) IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'here/spam'

What is the correct way to rewrite this for use with "with_traceback"? Is it

def open_file_on_path(name):

If nothing exists, raises an exception based on the

first attempt

saved_err = None for dirname in _PATH: try: return open(os.path.join(dirname, name)) except Exception, err: if not saved_err: saved_err = err saved_tb = sys.exc_info()[2] raise saved_err.with_traceback(saved_err.traceback)

One alternative, btw, is raise saved_err.with_traceback()

to have it use the existing traceback (and raising its own exception if traceback is None?)

    Andrew
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