[Python-Dev] New Super PEP (original) (raw)

Giovanni Bajo rasky at develer.com
Wed May 2 11:36:30 CEST 2007

On 29/04/2007 17.04, Guido van Rossum wrote:

This is only a halfway fix to DRY, and it really only fixes the less important half. The important problem with super is that it encourages people to write incorrect code by requiring that you explicitly specify an argument list. Since calling super with any arguments other than the exact same arguments you have received is nearly always wrong, requiring that the arglist be specified is an attractive nuisance. Nearly always wrong? You must be kidding. There are tons of reasons to call your super method with modified arguments. E.g. clipping, transforming, ...

Really? http://fuhm.net/super-harmful/

I don't believe that there are really so many. I would object to forcing super to only be able to pass unmodified arguments. But if it had an alternative syntax to do it (ala Dylan's next-method), I would surely use it often enough to make it worth.

Giovanni Bajo

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