[Python-Dev] Package install failures in 2.6.3 (original) (raw)

M.-A. Lemburg mal at egenix.com
Mon Oct 5 16:27:00 CEST 2009

Tarek Ziadé wrote:

Now I am astonished that we are talking about reverting changes in Distutils that were done for bugfixes, for a third party package that does monkey patches on Distutils.

If this choice wins here, it means that setuptools and the stdlib are tied together, and that the setuptools package should be integrated to the stdlib immediatly.

We've discussed ways of doing that some years ago and found that it was not possible to make ends join.

I'd much rather like to see some of the features in setuptools get implemented in distutils. eGenix could contribute a bdist_egg implementation that doesn't rely on setuptools and its monkey patches - along with some other new commands that people might find useful such as the ability to build Unix libraries, optional and self-configuring extensions, autoconf-style setups, etc. (see mxSetup.py in egenix-mx-base for all the details).

We'd just need some help with integrating the things into distutils, since we currently don't have the bandwidth for such things.

Aside: After importing setuptools a lot of things in distutils no longer work as advertised. This is due to the heavy monkey patching being applied in setuptools. In some cases there's on other way to adapt distutils to ones needs, but most of the times, a little more thought put into the OO design of a tool makes it possible to play nice with distutils without any monkey patching.

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