[Python-Dev] Python Package Management Roadmap in Python Releases (original) (raw)

David Lyon david.lyon at preisshare.net
Thu Oct 22 02:34:24 CEST 2009

Hi All,

I started out some time ago and wrote a Python Package Manager with wxpython. It was an interesting learning experience for me. I was new to python.

Some have pointed out that using wx was not a good idea for a tool to go into all the python distributions. Because it required the external dependency of wx.

So, given that, I'm ready to have another go.

Some have suggested using Tk. But I noticed python Tk isn't standard on ubuntu.

A console mode tool is possible. That would be better than the nothing that we have under windows today.

Vote [1] - console mode tool for this

Alternatively, a web server based tool along the lines of the old python docs system might be possible.

Vote [2] - web tool for this

I have come to understand that python-dev is full of people that know the packages that they like, know how to install them by hand, and probably only ever go looking for upgrades.

However, for new users, it is so much harder.

It also seems to me that we have a lot of reasonable and talented people, who are committed and dedicated.

To me, a relative outsider, it's not clear if this is a python central issue, or a distutils issue. It could be either. Advise me please.

By June next year, some people including myself, want to go to europe for holidays - sorry conferences.. and we want to take some work with us to talk about.

We can do the work..

But we need concessions...

What can we work on that might make a difference ?

If the current roadmap for distutils package management on windows for the next 8 months is nothing, I can live with that.

But seriously, lets get this discussion going again.

If a command line tool is all that windows users will allowed to have, then it would be better than the current plan which is for them to have nothing.

It's not just nothing for now, it's nothing for years.

That doesn't seem fair or nice. It's not just one person saying that, it is a handful who don't use windows on a regular basis.

Why can't we have an advocate from each major platform? bring their issues, and try to come to a consensus.

Even if that tool would simply allow them to choose:

From there, users could explore each offer on it's own merits.

I'm interested in getting all types of opinions and feedback.

David

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