[Python-Dev] Python Package Management Roadmap in Python Releases (original) (raw)

Glenn Linderman v+python at g.nevcal.com
Thu Oct 22 07:35:49 CEST 2009

On approximately 10/21/2009 7:13 PM, came the following characters from the keyboard of David Lyon:

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:38:26 -0700, Brett Cannon <brett at python.org> wrote:

We make a language here. Distutils exists as a bootstrap mechanism for the package story and for our own building needs of the stdlib.

Maybe what David is missing is that since python-dev is uninterested in the package management issue, the only remaining way to include package management in a convenient, single installation, is to

  1. Create the package management tool
  2. Create a bundled installer that will install both Python, the package management tool, and any dependencies of the package management tool
  3. Advertise the availability of the bundle, and its usefulness*
  4. See how many users try it out, and as new versions of Python are created, how many users keep coming back, in preference to the package management tool free python.org distribution.

*There does seem to be precedent for mentioning/linking to other distributions of Python from http://www.python.org/download/ so that would surely be an avenue that is open to David, although I have no idea what criteria must be met to obtain a listing on that page.

-- Glenn -- http://nevcal.com/

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