[Python-Dev] Python wiki (original) (raw)

anatoly techtonik techtonik at gmail.com
Thu Sep 23 22:25:31 CEST 2010

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Barry Warsaw <barry at python.org> wrote:

I certainly agree with that.  So, how can we solve those problems?  Radomir has shell access now so perhaps we can ask him to make the Python wiki theme more visually appealing.  What roadblocks do people encounter when they want to help garden or reorganize the wiki?

First of all Wiki is outdated. Correct me, but python.org specific customizations are not modules, but patches that makes it hard to update the Wiki to latest version or add new customizations.

Second - ugly Creole syntax. I am for inter-cooperation between wikis, and I understand that for non-developer communities [] symbols imposing problems, but as an open source developer I am addicted to Trac and Google Code syntax and never had problems with those.

Third - there is not starting point to help with wiki. No instructions how to checkout wiki code, how to get python.org modification, how to get sample data and how to get started. This place should be easily editable by anyone (premoderated for disrespectful members), so anyone can share their experience. Take a look at Trac.

Fourth. GPL license. I personally don't have interest to waste my time for the code I won't be able to use in some projects, unless the project is either exceptional (Mercurial) or interesting. To make python.org MoinMoin interesting - there should be an inviting entrypoint (see point three above) and the list of tasks to choose form. Something that is better than http://wiki.python.org/moin/SiteImprovements

Fifth. Credits and motivation for all python.org works. I still convinced that there should be one primary dedicated list and it should be public. All sensitive issues can be discussed with webmasters@ privately, but the primary list should be run by community. Not the volunteers who are better than others. If there will be a feeling that site is run by community, then you can expect contributions. Otherwise expect the community to think "they're doing the stuff here, so they will fix it".

-- anatoly t.

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