[Python-Dev] backporting stdlib 2.7.x from pypy to cpython (original) (raw)

Brian Curtin brian.curtin at gmail.com
Thu Jun 14 03:45:00 CEST 2012

On Jun 13, 2012 8:31 PM, "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen at xemacs.org> wrote:

Cameron Simpson writes: > This approach has its own problems. Is the proposed list, like many lists, > restricted to accept posts only from subscribers? If that is the case, > when someone CCs the VM list, everyone honouring the CC in replies needs > to be a VM list member if they are not to get annoying bounce > messages. Mailman has a feature called "sibling lists", which seems to include cross-checking membership on posts, although I'm not sure if it is tuned to exactly this purpose. In any cases, if the proposed list is not a discussion list, it can be configured not to send bounce messages just because somebody honored CC. For example, by keying on the Reference and In-Reply-To headers, and discarding the message if they are present (possible by ordinary configuration of the spam filters). For bonus points, bounce such messages when python-dev is not present among the visible addressees. (Might require a special Handler, but it wouldn't be a big deal to write it because it can be installed only for the new list.) > +1 to this, but how to keep this etiquette maintained? A filter on the new list, implemented as above. It's pretty much trivial for those with the know-how. > And (premised on my concern above), do people wanting to CC: the VM list > for the heads-up purpose need to join it first? Probably not, but this is hardly burdensome; many people with the background to know when to CC: may want to subscribe anyway even if they are subscribed to python-dev, and traffic should be quite low. If even so that's a bother, they can set their subscription to no-mail. > Conversely, some of this discussion mentions that people don't subscribe > to python-dev; do they need to subscribe to chime in when the bat signal > goes off? Maybe not: I believe it's possible to post to python-dev via Gmane if you're not subscribed. Even if they need to be subscribed, there is a wealth of options, including Gmane and the archives, for reading traffic without receiving it as mail (ie, by subscribing and then setting the no-mail flag). > Hackish idea: suppose there were a special purpose mail forwarder, > like a write-only mailing list? It would require special Mailman > hackery, Not that special.

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