[Python-Dev] BDFL delegation for PEP 426 (PyPI metadata 1.3) (original) (raw)

Éric Araujo merwok at netwok.org
Sun Feb 3 20:06:57 CET 2013

Hi,

Le 03/02/2013 13:57, Daniel Holth a écrit :

My position is that these days distutils doesn't belong in the standard library any more than Django does. You can install anything you want, but first you need an installer. I think that a language needs packaging formats and basic build and install tools in its stdlib. You can use different tools for specialized needs or tastes, but I think years and years of frustration show that people need a basic thing working out of the box.

So I am mildly opposed to supporting it when you should be using better designed third party tools like Bento Aside: can we keep the discussion civil instead of constantly bashing distutils and heaping praise on one tool? (It happened with easy_install before bento.) I’m the first one to recognize that distutils has deep flaws, but I respect the time and energy that many people have put into it.

Wheel makes it possible for Python to get out of the build tool business. Just install your preferred tools with a concise bootstrap installer. Looks like we agree that a basic tool able to bootstrap the packaging story is needed :)

Regards

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