[Python-Dev] IDLE in the stdlib (original) (raw)

Mark Janssen dreamingforward at gmail.com
Fri Mar 22 21:22:38 CET 2013

On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:48 AM, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net> wrote:

Le Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:38:41 +0100, Georg Brandl <g.brandl at gmx.net> a écrit :

> Am 21.03.2013 19:13, schrieb Antoine Pitrou: > > On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:57:54 -0700 > > Raymond Hettinger <raymond.hettinger at gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> On Mar 20, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Barry Warsaw <barry at python.org> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Right. Ultimately, I think IDLE should be a separate project > >> > entirely, but I guess there's push back against that too. > >> > >> The most important feature of IDLE is that it ships with the > >> standard library. Everyone who clicks on the Windows MSI on the > >> python.org webpage automatically has IDLE. That is why I > >> frequently teach Python with IDLE. > >> > >> If this thread results in IDLE being ripped out of the standard > >> distribution, then I would likely never use it again. > > > > Which says a lot about its usefulness, if the only reason you use > > it is that it's bundled with the standard distribution. > > Just like a lot of the stdlib, it gets a lot of usefulness from > being a battery. But just because there are better/more > comprehensive/prettier replacements out there is not reason enough to > remove standard libraries. That's a good point. I guess it's difficult for me to think of IDLE as an actual library. It's not a library. It's an application that is bundled in the standard distribution.

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