[Python-Dev] The pysandbox project is broken (original) (raw)

Christian Tismer tismer at stackless.com
Fri Nov 15 23:24:21 CET 2013

On 13/11/13 00:49, Josiah Carlson wrote:

Python-dev is for the development of the Python core language, the CPython runtime, and libraries. Your sandbox, despite using and requiring deep knowledge of the runtime, is not developing those things. If you had a series of requests for the language or runtime that would make your job easier, then your thread would be on-topic.

I think you should consider to re-define you perception of the purpose of the python-dev list. Simple feature-requests is not everything. Instead, this list also touches the general direction where python should go, and discusses the current hard-to-solve problems.

The sand-boxing feature via rexec, bastion etc. was perceived as a useful, quite safe thing, until it was proven to be completely broken (Samuele Pedroni et. at., 2003 I think). After that, CPython simply removed those features and failed completely to provide a better solution.

I appreciate very much that Victor tried his best to fill that old gap. And after that breakage happened again, I think it is urgent to have an in-depth discussion how that situation should be treated in the future.

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