[Python-Dev] PEP 0404 and VS 2010 (original) (raw)

Christian Tismer tismer at stackless.com
Wed Nov 20 23:04:28 CET 2013

My question is not answered at all, sorry Joao! I did not ask a teacher for his opinion on Stackless, but the community about the validity of pep 404.

I don't want a python 2.7 that does not install correctly, because people don't read instructions. And exactly that will happen if I submit a modified python 2.7 to PyPI.

This is a topic on Stackless Python, and I am asking python-dev before I do it. But people know this has its limits.

cheers - chris

On 20/11/13 22:15, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:

I'd say publishing a high profile installable code with a "python 2.8" name would cause a lot of undesired confusion to start with.

I usually lecture on Python to present the language to college students and I.T. workers - and explaining away the current versioning scheme (use either 2.7 or 3.3) is hard already. Having to add an explanation about a downloadable and installable Python 2.8 that would be incompatible with extensions compiled in Pypi would be tough. and I doubt it could even be done without making your project look bad on the process. Can't you just mark it as "visual studio 2010" version instead? js -><-

On 20 November 2013 18:52, Christian Tismer <tismer at stackless.com_ _<mailto:tismer at stackless.com>> wrote: Howdy friends, according to pep 404, there will never be an official Python 2.8. The migration path is from 2.7 to 3.x. I agree with this strategy in almost all consequences but this one: Many customers are forced to stick with Python 2.X because of other products, but they require a Python 2.X version which can be compiled using Visual Studio 2010 or better. This is considered an improvement and not a bug fix, where I disagree. So I see many Python 2.7 repositories on BB/GH which are hacked to support VS 2010, but they are not converted with the same quality in mind that fits our standards. My question ----------- I have created a very clean Python 2.7.6+ based CPython with the Stackless additions, that compiles with VS 2010, using the adapted project structure of Python 3.3.X, and I want to publish that on the Stackless website as the official "Stackless Python 2.8". If you consider Stackless as official ;-) . This compiler change is currently the only deviation from CPython 2.7, but we may support a few easy back-ports on customer demand. We don'd add any random stuff, of course. My question is if that is safe to do: Can I rely on PEP 404 that the "Python 2.8" namespace never will clash with CPython? And if not, what do you suggest then? It will be submitted by end of November, thanks for your quick responses! all the best -- Chris -- Christian Tismer :^) <mailto:tismer at stackless.com_ _<mailto:tismer at stackless.com>> Software Consulting : Have a break! Take a ride on Python's Karl-Liebknecht-Str. 121 : Starship http://starship.python.net/ 14482 Potsdam : PGP key -> http://pgp.uni-mainz.de phone +49 173 24 18 776 tel:%2B49%20173%2024%2018%20776 fax +49 (30) 700143-0023 tel:%2B49%20%2830%29%20700143-0023 PGP 0x57F3BF04 9064 F4E1 D754 C2FF 1619 305B C09C 5A3B 57F3 BF04 whom do you want to sponsor today? http://www.stackless.com/

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