[Python-Dev] PEP 0404 and VS 2010 (original) (raw)

Christian Tismer tismer at stackless.com
Thu Nov 21 00:36:46 CET 2013

Hey Barry,

On 20.11.13 23:30, Barry Warsaw wrote:

On Nov 20, 2013, at 09:52 PM, Christian Tismer wrote:

Many customers are forced to stick with Python 2.X because of other products, but they require a Python 2.X version which can be compiled using Visual Studio 2010 or better. This is considered an improvement and not a bug fix, where I disagree. I'm not so sure about that. Python 2.7 can still get patches to help extend its useful life by allowing it to be built with newer compiler suites. I believe this has already been done for various Linux compilers. I see no non-technical reason why Python 2.7 can't be taught how to build with VS 2010 or newer. Details are subject to RM approval, IMHO. I have created a very clean Python 2.7.6+ based CPython with the Stackless additions, that compiles with VS 2010, using the adapted project structure of Python 3.3.X, and I want to publish that on the Stackless website as the official "Stackless Python 2.8". If you consider Stackless as official ;-) .

This compiler change is currently the only deviation from CPython 2.7, but we may support a few easy back-ports on customer demand. We don'd add any random stuff, of course. I think you're just going to confuse everyone if you call it "Stackless Python 2.8" and it will do more harm than good.

Barry, that's a good thing! This way I have a chance to get my build in at all. And that's the question, after re-thinking:

Where can I check my change in, if it is going to be accepted as a valid 2.7 bug fix (concerning VS 2008 as a bug, that is is)?

I was intending to do this since a year but was stopped by MVL's influence. Maybe this needs to be re-thought, since I think different.

What I do not know: Should I simply check this in to a python 2.7.x-VS2010 branch? Or what do you suggest, then?

In any case, my question still stands, and I will do something with the Stackless branch by end of November. Please influence me ASAP, I don't intend to do any harm, but that problem is caused simply by my existence, and I want to stick with that for another few decades.

If I think something must be done, then I have my way to do it. If you have good reasons to prevent this, then you should speak up in the next 10 days, or it will happen. Is that ok with you?

Hugs -- your friend Chris

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