[Python-Dev] cpython: Rename contextlib.ignored() to contextlib.ignore(). (original) (raw)

Nick Coghlan ncoghlan at gmail.com
Mon Oct 14 00:17:10 CEST 2013

On 14 Oct 2013 01:45, "Antoine Pitrou" <solipsis at pitrou.net> wrote:

On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 01:20:30 +1000 Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan at gmail.com> wrote: > > Then, yes, I think challenging people to try to get me booted as > module maintainer for contextlib is a precisely proportionate > response. Because I don't agree with you on one instance doesn't mean I usually distrust your judgement. Reasonable organizations have ways to change decisions that doesn't involve overthrowing people (think about appeal courts, for example). This is much better than expecting some select people to be infallible kings :-)

I think I'm mostly irritated by the fact that this thread (which is almost completely inconsequential for the overall language design regardless of whether the feature stays or goes) attracts dozens of posts, while actually hard 3.x usability problems like getting the codec support back to parity with 2.x are still languishing for lack of interest. These days it seems progress is only made on the latter when I work on it as a means of procrastinating on something else :P

Personally, I generally trust you to 1) make enough research and/or gather enough material 2) take informed decisions that do justice to the community's ethos (after, sometimes, a certain amount of arguing :-)). If my criticism came accross as criticizing your competence, then I'm sorry: that was not my intent.

I suspect lack of sleep was also a factor in my poor reaction ;)

PJE's articulation of the potential for misinterpretation as the equivalent of VB's "on error resume next" for users learning by example is an interesting one.

I'm actually tempted to move this particular feature out to contextlib2 for the time being (similar to what I did with ExitStack and some other experimental features that never made it back into the stdlib version). A pull request at https://bitbucket.org/ncoghlan/contextlib2 to bring it up to date with the latest contextlib code would likely help push me in that direction (it's not quite a matter of simply copying the current stdlib code, since contextlib2 still supports some of those experimental APIs I didn't end up merging).

Cheers, Nick.

Regards Antoine.

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