[Python-Dev] PEP 453 (pip bootstrapping) ready for pronouncement? (original) (raw)

Donald Stufft donald at stufft.io
Thu Sep 26 01:15:41 CEST 2013

On Sep 25, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Barry Warsaw <barry at python.org> wrote:

Another reason to oppose this is what I've heard quite often from people regarding Python 2.7. I've been told that many folks are actually really happy with using 2.7 precisely because it extremely stable. They don't have to worry about their stuff breaking or incompatibilities cropping up, because it doesn't change. Python 2.7 is like a long-term maintenance release, with guaranteed multi-year stability, and I think while that was unintended, it's a good thing. This PEP proposes to break that, and I'm loathe to give up that good reputation for this particular feature.

Maybe I'm just naive but can you expand on how adding a module that nothing else in the system imports (besides the installers; but you weren't arguing against adding this to the installers) would break someones use any other module? If they don't import it (which the vast bulk of people won't directly, nor at all during the operation of their applications) how does it's existence on the file system risk a breakage to their system?

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