[Python-Dev] PEP 476: Enabling certificate validation by default! (original) (raw)

R. David Murray rdmurray at bitdance.com
Sat Aug 30 15:32:32 CEST 2014


On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 14:03:57 +0200, "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal at egenix.com> wrote:

On 30.08.2014 12:55, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 12:46:47 +0200 > "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal at egenix.com> wrote: >>> That use case should be served with the SSLCERTDIR and SSLCERTFILE >>> env vars (or, better, by specific settings inside the application). >>> >>> I'm against multiplying environment variables, as it makes it more >>> difficult to assess the actual security of a setting. The danger of an >>> ill-secure setting is much more severe than with hash randomization. >> >> You have a point there. So how about just a python run-time switch >> and no env var ? > > Well, why not, but does it have a value over letting the code properly > configure their SSLContext?

Yes, because when Python changes the default to be validating and more secure, application developers will do the same as they do now: simply use the defaults ;-)

But neither of those addresses the articulated use case: someone using a program implemented in python that does not itself provide a way to disable the new default security (because it is new). Only an environment variable will do that.

Since the environment variable is opt-in, I think the "consenting adults" argument applies to Alex's demure about "multiple connections". It could still emit the warnings.

--David



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