[Python-Dev] PEP 460 reboot and a bitter fight (original) (raw)
Ethan Furman ethan at stoneleaf.us
Mon Jan 13 08:59:13 CET 2014
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On 01/12/2014 11:15 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
(It's too late here to write more, but it looks like we are in for a bitter fight. :-( )
It's already been a bitter fight.
The opponents of %-interpolation (Nick, Antoine, Turnbull, D'Aprano, et al*) all seem to be arguing basically what Nick said.
The proponents (myself, you, Stufft, Eric Smith, et al*) are arguing that bytes already has an ASCII bias, already has ASCII string methods, that it isn't the same as the Py2 world because if you combine a bytes object with a str object outside of interpolation (such as b'hello' + 'world') it doesn't work, that only bytes would ever be returned, etc, etc.
With the possible exception of the question I just asked Nick, I don't think we're going to get any new information.
I suppose you're used to not being able to please everybody. :/
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Ethan
- et al means everyone whose name I couldn't remember, or figure out which camp you were in in the wee hours of the night.
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