[Python-Dev] buildbot.python.org down again? (original) (raw)

Guido van Rossum guido at python.org
Tue Jul 8 16:48:39 CEST 2014

May the true owner of buildbot.python.org stand up!

(But I do think there may well not be anyone who feels they own it. And that's a problem for its long term viability.)

Generally speaking, as an organization we should set up a process for managing ownership of all infrastructure in a uniform way. I don't mean to say that we need to manage all infrastructure uniformly, just that we need to have a process for identifying and contacting the owner(s) for each piece of infrastructure, as well as collecting other information that people besides the owners might need to know. You can use a wiki page for that list for all I care, but have a process for what belongs there, how/when to update it, and even an owner for the wiki page! Stuff like this shouldn't be just in a few people's heads (even if they are board members) nor should it be in a file in a repo that nobody has ever heard of.

On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:33 AM, Donald Stufft <donald at stufft.io> wrote:

On Jul 8, 2014, at 12:58 AM, Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan at gmail.com> wrote:

On 7 Jul 2014 10:47, "Guido van Rossum" <guido at python.org> wrote: > > It would still be nice to know who "the appropriate persons" are. Too much of our infrastructure seems to be maintained by house elves or the ITA. I volunteered to be the board's liaison to the infrastructure team, and getting more visibility around what the infrastructure is and how it's monitored and supported is going to be part of that. That will serve a couple of key purposes: - making the points of escalation clearer if anything breaks or needs improvement (although "infrastructure at python.org" is a good default choice) - making the current "todo" list of the infrastructure team more visible (both to calibrate resolution time expectations and to provide potential contributors an idea of what's involved) Noah has already set up http://status.python.org/ to track service status, I can see about getting buildbot.python.org added to the list. Cheers, Nick. We (the infrastructure team) were actually looking earlier about buildbot.python.org and we’re not entirely sure who "owns" buildbot.python.org. Unfortunately a lot of the *.python.org services are in a similar state where there is no clear owner. Generally we've not wanted to just step in and take over for fear of stepping on someones toes but it appears that perhaps buildbot.p.o has no owner? ----------------- Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA

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