[Python-Dev] Proposed schedule for 3.4.2 (original) (raw)

Glenn Linderman v+python at g.nevcal.com
Tue Sep 9 06:32:32 CEST 2014

On 9/8/2014 8:41 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

> Why not provide urlopenwithscarykeywordparameter as the > monkey-patch option? > > So after the (global to the module) monkeypatch, they wouldstill have > to add the keyword parameter.

I understand the hardline position, though I don't like it: "if you don't know how to do it yourself, we won't help you do it at all."[1] But this "defense in depth" suggestion really violates the "consenting adults" principle. One warning in the docs and another in the name itself should be enough, and if it isn't, Mommy should take Jimmy's RaspberryPi away. I was assuming, because of the suggestion for a monkey patch at all, in response to Guido's suggestion of a keyword parameter, that there was a problem adding a keyword parameter to urlopen. If there is, then the combo above could be useful in making them track down and adjust the places that need it, without forcing them to adjust the places that don't need it? If there is not, then no need for the monkey patch at all, they can just change add the keyword parameter.

If the alternate function doesn't have an extra keyword parameter, the monkeypatch solution would be the "easy" way to apply the change globally, even to places that don't need it, or optionally don't need it... too big a hammer. Having the extra parameter also might make them not apply it globally, and think more about what and why they are doing what they are doing.

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