[Python-Dev] Supported versions of OpenSSL (original) (raw)

M.-A. Lemburg mal at egenix.com
Wed Aug 31 12:56:19 EDT 2016

On 31.08.2016 14:02, Nick Coghlan wrote:

On 31 August 2016 at 20:20, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:

... which would then mean: Python's compatibility roadmap will be dictated by OpenSSL.

I won't buy into that, sorry. Crypto is a helper in certain situations, it's not what Python is all about. We should not let OpenSSL dictate how and when we deprecate platforms or OS versions. It won't dictate general support for those platforms, it will dictate support for the ssl module on those platforms. If someone isn't making secure network connections from Python, things will work fine. If a redistributor is stepping in to provide the assertion that the network connection is secure despite our upstream misgivings, things will work fine. Connections will only fail in cases where neither we nor a redistributor are prepared to make the assertion that a requested secure network connection will actually be secure.

Yes, you can view it that way. Your car works, but access to fuel is severely limited ;-)

The way things are developing around Python, if pip doesn't work, your Python installation cannot be considered working.

Hmm, perhaps pip ought to fallback to curl or wget if there's no ssl module. Or we move away entirely from HTTPS and use properly signed Python packages - ah, nevermind, it's not the first time that have different views than many other core devs. That's fine.

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