[Python-Dev] PEP 467: last round (?) (original) (raw)

Koos Zevenhoven k7hoven at gmail.com
Tue Sep 6 08:01:44 EDT 2016

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 3:30 AM, Random832 <random832 at fastmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, Sep 4, 2016, at 16:42, Koos Zevenhoven wrote:

On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan at gmail.com> wrote: > > There are two self-consistent sets of names: >

Let me add a few. I wonder if this is really used so much that bytes.chr is too long to type (and you can do bchr = bytes.chr if you want to): bytes.chr (or bchr in builtins) bytes.chrat, bytearray.chrat Ugh, that "at" is too reminiscent of java. And it just feels wrong to spell it "chr" rather than "char" when there's a vowel elsewhere in the name.

Oh, I didn't realize that connection. It's funny that I get a Java connotation from get* methods ;).

Hmm... how offensive to the zen of python would it be to have "magic" to allow both bytes.chr(65) and b'ABCDE'.chr[0]? (and possibly also iter(b'ABCDE'.chr)? That is, a descriptor which is callable on the class, but returns a view on instances?

Indeed quite magical, while I really like how easy it is to remember this once you realize what is going on.

I think bytes.char (on class) and data.chars (on instance) would be quite similar.

-- Koos

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