[Python-Dev] Deprecate PEP 370 Per user site-packages directory? (original) (raw)

Bruno Maximilian Voß bruno.m.voss at gmail.com
Sat Jan 13 15:58:40 EST 2018

Hi all,

I'm a user who decided to read the mailing list and respond to argue against and maybe stop things I don't think will help users as much as you think.I think deprecating user site-packages is such a change.

That venvs exist doesn't mean most or even many people use them, even though I'm sure you and everyone you know does. I couldn't find usage statistics on short notice, do you have any?

As far as I understand it site-packages is the default location for all packages that are installed and as long as the packages that are installed aren't causing a conflict, there is no problem. I've never had a problem in six years of using python.

So I'd really like a more detailed break down of the troubles the existence of site packages causes and of the up- and downsides removing it would bring, before anything is decided.

Another point I'd like to raise is that even though it's a good idea to isolate programs with venvs for stability, development and sometimes maybe security, idk, the idea of having a shared pool of packages has benefits too, namely code reuse and their availability, for example when you're offline.

Also I don't really know why you would think it's necessary to force every user into venvs. The applications and users that do need their environments are free to use one after all.

Regards,

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