[Python-Dev] Const access to CPython objects outside of GIL? (original) (raw)

Radim Řehůřek radim at rare-technologies.com
Tue Jul 17 00🔞34 EDT 2018


Hi all,

one of our Python projects calls for pretty heavy, low-level optimizations.

We went down the rabbit hole and determined that having access to PyList_GET_ITEM(list), PyInt_AS_LONG(int) and PyDict_GetItem(dict, unicode) on Python objects outside of GIL might be a good-enough solution. The Python objects in question are guaranteed to live and not be mutated externally in any way. They're "frozen" and read-only.

Under what conditions is it OK to call these 3 functions on such objects?

More generally, what is the CPython 2.7/3.5 contract regarding (lack of) object mutation, and the need for reference counting and synchronization via GIL?

Which C API functions are safe to call on "const" objects?

Obviously releasing GIL and then calling C API is hacky, but from initial experiments, it seems to work (see https://stackoverflow.com/questions/51351609/can-i-const-access-cpython-objects-without-gil). But I'm wondering if there's a more formal contract around this behaviour.

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