[Python-Dev] 2018 Python Language Summit coverage, last part (original) (raw)

Antoine Pitrou solipsis at pitrou.net
Thu Jun 21 12:26:17 EDT 2018

Hi Jake,

On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 09🔞30 -0600 Jake Edge <jake at lwn.net> wrote:

The starting point is here: https://lwn.net/Articles/754152/ That is an overview article with links to the individual articles. Here are the articles since my post on Monday (which is here: https://lwn.net/ml/python-dev/20180618112251.5f936617%40gallinule/ ) PEP 572 and decision-making in Python https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/757713/2118c7722d957926/

This is an excellent writeup, thank you. The discussion seems to have been constructive, too.

I would just like to approve the following points:

Part of the problem is that there is no real way to measure the effectiveness of new language features.

Indeed. But, for a syntax addition such as PEP 572, I think it would be a good idea to ask their opinion to teaching/education specialists.

As far as I'm concerned, if teachers and/or education specialists were to say PEP 572 is not a problem, my position would shift from negative towards neutral.

Van Rossum wondered if the opposition only got heated up after he got involved; people may not have taken it seriously earlier because they thought he would not go for it.

That's very true. For me, at the start, the assignment operator proposal was one of those many python-ideas threads about new syntax that never get any wide approval, so I didn't bother about it.

Regards

Antoine.

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