[Python-Dev] Informal educator feedback on PEP 572 (was Re: 2018 Python Language Summit coverage, last part) (original) (raw)

Antoine Pitrou solipsis at pitrou.net
Fri Jun 22 10:47:10 EDT 2018

On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 00:22:33 +1000 Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan at gmail.com> wrote:

On 22 June 2018 at 02:26, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net> wrote: > Indeed. But, for a syntax addition such as PEP 572, I think it would be > a good idea to ask their opinion to teaching/education specialists. > > As far as I'm concerned, if teachers and/or education specialists were > to say PEP 572 is not a problem, my position would shift from negative > towards neutral.

I asked a handful of folks at the Education Summit the next day about it: * for the basic notion of allowing expression level name binding using the "NAME := EXPR" notation, the reactions ranged from mildly negative (I read it as only a "-0" rather than a "-1") to outright positive.

Thank you. Personally, I'd like to see feedback from educators/teachers after they take the time to read the PEP and take some time to think about its consequences.

My main concern is we're introducing a second different way of doing something which is really fundamental.

* for the reactions to my description of the currently proposed parent local scoping behaviour in comprehensions, I'd use the word "horrified", and feel I wasn't overstating the response :) [...]

Hmm... I don't think conflating the assignment expression proposal with comprehension semantics issues is helping the discussion.

Regards

Antoine.

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