[Python-Dev] PEP 594: Removing dead batteries from the standard library (original) (raw)

Brett Cannon bcannon at gmail.com
Tue May 21 14:07:08 EDT 2019

On Tue., May 21, 2019, 04:25 Victor Stinner, <vstinner at redhat.com> wrote:

Le mar. 21 mai 2019 à 13:18, André Malo <nd at perlig.de> a écrit : > There's software in production using both. (It doesn't mean it's on pypi or > even free software). > > What would be the maintenance burden of those modules anyway? (at least for > nntp, I guess it's not gonna change).

The maintenance burden is real even if it's not visible. For example, testnntplib is causing frequently issues on our CI: https://bugs.python.org/issue19756 https://bugs.python.org/issue19613 https://bugs.python.org/issue31850 It's failing frequently since 2013, and nobody managed to come with a fix.. in 6 years. There are 11 open issues with "nntp" in their title (8 with exactly "nntplib" in their title).

I would be curious to know how many feature PRs there might exist as that also is a burden for any of these modules beyond bugs and any general upkeep we do (e.g. someone on Twitter argued that because someone merged a new feature that means that a module should stay, but to me that just says one person cared enough to write a PR and one core dev viewed it as harmless to merge which isn't necessarily representative of usage).

-Brett

P.S. I have an idea about under-supported modules in the stdlib and feature requests, but it's too early to share (nor the appropriate thread of discussion).

testnntplib uses the public server news.trigofacile.com which is operated by Julien ÉLIE. Two years ago, Julien asked me if there is any plan to support the NNTP "COMPRESS" command.

Victor

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