[Python-Dev] PEP 594: update 1 (original) (raw)

Guido van Rossum guido at python.org
Tue May 21 21:19:42 EDT 2019

I repeat my position: on an omnibus PEP like this, if there's this much debate about one module, it should be struck from the list.

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 5:46 PM Brett Cannon <bcannon at gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue., May 21, 2019, 11:29 Antoine Pitrou, <antoine at python.org> wrote:

Le 21/05/2019 à 20:16, Brett Cannon a écrit : > > > On Tue., May 21, 2019, 09:10 Christian Heimes, <christian at python.org_ _> <mailto:christian at python.org>> wrote: > > On 21/05/2019 17.31, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > > > As I said, if the main annoyance with nntplib is the sporadic test > > failures, then the relevant tests can be disabled on CI. > > > > NNTP itself is still used, even if less and less. > > I don't like the idea to drop a third of the test cases for nntplib > -- and the 30% that actually test that Python's NNTP library can > talk to an actual NNTP server. IMHO it's more beneficial for core > development and for nntplib to have it maintained by somebody that > cares about the library. > > > Ditto for me. If the code isn't going to be properly tested then it's > already unsupported, at which point we're back to wanting to deprecate it. So I should never have added those tests and then we wouldn't be talking about removing nntplib. Not necessarily. I suspect it still would have been listed, you would have objected, and someone may have looked at the tests to point out it was only unit tests with no integration tests against a live service like e.g. the pythontest.net-related tests and so it was already neglected. It also doesn't help that no one is listed in the experts index for the module either. -Brett Regards Antoine.

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