[Python-ideas] Show deprecation warnings in the interactive interpreter (original) (raw)

Nathaniel Smith njs at pobox.com
Fri Feb 27 03:43:53 CET 2015

On Feb 26, 2015 6:20 PM, "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen at xemacs.org> wrote:

Nathaniel Smith writes: > On Feb 26, 2015 9:33 AM, "Terry Reedy" <tjreedy at udel.edu> wrote: > > On 2/26/2015 11:15 AM, random832 at fastmail.us wrote: > >> Your argument seems to boil down to "no-one uses the prompt", so why not > >> just get rid of it? > > [Hardly.] > [I]f this is not an accurate summary of what you're trying to > argue, then I honestly have no idea what you are trying to argue. I'm surprised at "no idea". He's been clear throughout that because there are many alternative interactive interfaces besides the CPython interpreter itself, to be truly effective the warnings need to be propagated to those, and it's not automatic because most of them don't use the interactive interpreter. IIUC, at least in IDLE it's already possible to get them with some fiddling. Since it's debatable how important this is to interactive prompt users (especially those on POSIX systems), he thinks that to be effective it requires much more to change than just the CPython interpreter, and

Right, I think everyone can agree with all that.

since it may annoy more users than would be helped, he doesn't seem to think the change is justified.

... But afaict Terry has not said one word of this; either I'm missing something or you're doing the same thing as random832 and filling in the gaps with guesses. Which is totally reasonable, natural language understanding always requires filling in gaps like this, and I'm not annoyed at anyone or anything (maybe my last message came across as somewhat hostile? My apologies if so). Really I just think Terry should realize that they haven't been as clear as they think and elaborate, because I actually would like to know what they're saying.

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