Unicode Mail List Archive: Re: Apostrophes (was Re: Exemplar Characters) (original) (raw)

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The mark which is used as "apostrophe" may also be
used in identical shape as "comma". Those would have to be considered as two
different entities because they constantly occupy two different levels with
reference to the base line. They thus have two different existential
lines/points and require two different code points.

{'} cannot be pronounced. It is not a sound-representation. It is a
non-alphabetic character, having its own appointed name: apostrophe. We
pronounce this name where we need to say it is there.Suppose we want to have
"Name's" read out, clearly showing that it is not the 'plural' form. Then we
would have to make it heard as: "name apostropohe s".
Let us make a point about reading vs pronouncing.When we read 'name' in
'name's', we are not pronouncing n, a, m and e; we are reading them, i.e.,
producing the exact sounds connectedly in the given sequence; then we are
not reading 's, we are pronouncing the names of these two items as
"apostropohe s". Conversely, when we transcribe it back we do not write the
name of (the last item) the letter, but the letter itself, which represents
its own name as well

James Austin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Everson" <everson@evertype.com>
To: "Unicode Discussion" <unicode@unicode.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Apostrophes (was Re: Exemplar Characters)

> At 15:03 -0500 2005-11-15, Chris Harvey wrote:
>
> >a h i k n p r t u x y '
> >
> >Point 1: It doesn't matter what the phonetic realisations of these
> >are to assign a Unicode codepoint. We know that Latin Script a is
> >U+0061 regardless of how it's pronounced.
> >
> >Point 2: We have evidence from Breton that U+2019 is used as part of
> >an alphabetic letter, instead of just punctuation.
> >
> >a is U+0061
> >h is U+0068
> >...
> >' is what?
>
> U+02BC, probably, if ' is a letter by itself.
>
> It is not in Breton.
> --
> Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com
>

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