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- 1904 Proposa1
- 1930 Proposal
- 1939 Proposal
- Proposals of 1946
- Proposal of 1947
- Proposals of 1955/1956
- Proposal of 1962
- Star proposal
- Proposal of 1964: The Pearson Pennant
- A.Y. Jackson proposal
- Louise Parent proposal
- Facts from Radio Canada
- No flag proposal
- Humorous political cartoon
See also:
- Canada
- Reid Scott proposal
- Canadian Flag, writings by Matheson
- CBC's_A Flag for Canada_
- Canada's flag: a search for a country (from the Internet Archive)
- 'First' Flags: A Report on Research Undertaken to Identify and Locate Canada's First Maple Leaf Flags (PDF at National Library of Canada/National Archives)
- Clips on the adoption of the flag at Radio Canada (in French)
- CBC News article "Forgotten flags - a rare peek at what might have been"
- 11 rejected Canadian flag designs
- 29 more pages of rejected designs
- Flag designs we didn't pick
- A collection of Canadian Flag Proposal resources by Esteban Rivera
- Proposed flags for Canada 1895-1963
1904 Proposal
[ ](../images/c/ca!agr04.jpg)
Initially located at a Canadian stamp company auction (vanceauctions.com) described thus: 89, Tied by 1909 RPO cancel on rare PATRIOTIC POSTCARD depicting "THE CANADIAN UNION JACK" flag.
Roger Moyer, 6 August 2007
There are 11 maple leaves shown. I can't make out the topmost. The others are (I think) MAN, ONT, QUE, NS, NB, PEI, ALB, SAS, BC, NWT. But the one at the top of the tree looks like COM or CON (definitely not CAN). Can anybody tell what it stands for? And was it the flag or the postcard which was registered with the DoA (strange bureaucratic placement in either case).
Ned Smith, 9 August 2007
The letters H.L.D.P. stand for Honneur, Liberté, Défense, Patrie and the abbreviation Con above the provinces stand for Confédération. This from a book called Canada et Canadiens (1908) by Adrien Loir.
Owen, 7 November 2015
The free e-book Canada et Canadiens in French (Pages 345-347) also mentions that it was designed by a French Canadian man named Léger, with a written description of the flag translated in this blog post, which strangely enough links back to this UFE page for the images of the flag.
Matthew Lewis, 30 March 2018
It is indeed a flag proposal submitted in 1904 (source) which was a hypothesis first mentioned by Bob Hunt on his August 10, 2007 post and confirmed by Matthew Lewis on his March 30, 2018 post. It is also likely that the flag was submitted and/or stored as "Canadian Union Jack Drapeau National Canadien (Canadian National Flag)" (proposal), so we should label it as such when included in the Canadian pages, which, IMHO, should be relocated here: "Canada, flag proposals".
Esteban Rivera, 31 March 2018
1930 Proposal
[ ](../images/c/ca!1930.gif)image by Eugene Ipavec and Clay Moss, 17 December 2009
A design was suggested by the newspaper La Presse in the 11 January 1930 edition of La Presse Montreal. Some years earlier the winner of a Manitoba Free Press Competition had been a white flag, Union canton, with blue five point stars making up the Great Bear in the lower hoist and fly, and a larger North Star near the top of the upper fly.
David Prothero, 29 November 2009
There was no illustration, only the above description which is open to different interpretations. I suggest it is more likely that the North Star and the Great Bear would have been in their correct relative positions; i.e., the two right hand stars of the Great Bear and the North Star in line. Also there is no indication that the North Star had more than five points.
David Prothero, 17 December 2009
From the Manitoba Free Press, Wednesday 26 January 1916, page 9:
Why shouldn't we Canadians, like the Australians, have a distinctive flag, instead of the makeshift of the British merchant marine ensign, with the Dominion arms in the fly? . . . The seven stars of the Dipper would make a fine Canadian flag. The field, of course, would have to be some other color than the red of the Australian flag, on which the five stars of the Southern Cross shine in white.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 19 November 2014
A 1939 Proposal
[ ](../images/c/ca!1939.gif)image by Eugene Ipavec 29 September 2007
This is a copy of the flag proposal put forth in 1939 by Ephrem Cote. He wrote a book promoting his flag, called Project of a Distinct National Flag for Canada.
It seems like most of the submissions were based on the red ensign, but this is different.
Kevin Wharton, 20 December 2002
Proposals of 1946
I have been reading through "Canada's Flag - A Search for Country" online. It is proving to be absolutely fascinating.
On page 4m ( http://www.schoolnet.ca/collections/flag/html/ch4m.htm ) I discovered some proposals which are not shown on FOTW.
Here is the text that applies. I have added the file names of the images after each relevant description.
Beaudoin still pleaded for some measure of compromise. He was prepared to accept the Union Jack in the first quarter provided that part or all of the background was white. It was, incidentally, a design which had been suggested by the newspaper La Presse in the I930s.38 The white background on the flag would symbolize the history of the first period of Canada, the heroic period wherein citizens of French origin played such a great role.
[ ](../images/c/ca!1946a.gif)image by Eugene Ipavec and Clay Moss 29 September 2007
Interestingly enough, Beaudoin's suggestion won support from J. M. Macdonnell, a prestigious Toronto Conservative, and from Senator Reid, a Liberal and Scottishborn Presbyterian from British Columbia. Even G. G. Hansell stated that he had no objection to a little white and in fact wished to see some white, somewhere, perhaps a white maple leaf!
[ ](../images/c/ca!1946b.gif)image by Eugene Ipavec and Clay Moss 29 September 2007
For a short while it seemed as though some compromise might be achieved, possibly in the form of a variation of the naval white ensign.
The protagonists appeared to be withdrawing from their hard positions.
It fell to John R. MacNicol, member for Davenport Toronto and past president of riding, city ward, provincial and dominion Conservative associations, to bring the dreamers to heel. He would have nothing less than the Red Ensign and said so in terms that left no further hope for compromise. His only concession would be a maple leaf on a white background instead of the Coat of Arms.
[ ](../images/c/ca!1946c.gif)image by Eugene Ipavec and Clay Moss 29 September 2007
The joint committee met on the evening of Thursday, 11 July, under the chairmanship of Walter Harris to prepare the final report. R. W. Gladstone, member for Wellington South moved:
That this committee recommend that the national flag in Canada should be the Canadian Red Ensign with a maple leaf in autumn golden colours in a bordered background of white replacing the Coat of Arms in the fly, the whole design to be so proportioned that the size and position of the maple leaf in relation to the Union Jack in the canton will identify it as a symbol distinctive of Canada as a nation.
[ ](../images/c/ca!1946d.gif)image by Eugene Ipavec and Clay Moss 14 September 2007
These descriptions are pretty vague, so I had to do a little creative interpretation. Comments are, of course, welcome.
Chris Young - 14 March 1999
We actually have a yellowing old poster on the wall here in the High Commission (ie., intra-Commonwealth Embassy) showing this flag. The maple leaf is a natural ("proper"?) sugar maple leaf, with somewhat sweeping (curved?) edges, vice the straight, geometrically-balanced "stylised" maple leaf of the current (post-1964) flag. The current stylised maple leaf was a creation of the 1964 flag debate; hence the maple leaf on any pre-1965 Canadian flag/arms should be natural.
Glen Robert-Grant Hodgins
In Chris's initial posting on the subject he referred to gold. This is the "natural" colour finally proposed in 1946, (and the one in the poster I referred to). As I'm sure we have discussed before, prior to c. the mid-1950s the preferred option was for a green maple leaf; then, slowly, the preference changed to a red one. This transformation was reflected most obviously in the colours of the sprig of 3 leaves portrayed in the bottom compartment of the shield in the Canadian coat of arms; but not exclusively -- Her Majesty's Canadian Ships adopted a green maple leaf (as a distinguishing mark), c.1943, and affixed it to their funnels. These were slowly repainted to red in the late-1940s/early-1950s, and after 1965 all new ones were the stylised maple leaf.
Glen Robert-Grant Hodgins, 15 March 1999
Proposal of 1947
[ ](../images/c/ca!1947.gif)image by Eugene Ipavec, 14 September 2007
This flag was suggested by Ad�lard Godbout (Premier of Quebec in 1936 and from 1939 to 1944) in 1947 for Canada. It was the flag of the League of the Canadian Flag : diagonally divided from upper hoist to lower fly, red over white, with a centered green maple leaf.
Some might be interested to know that in the text of the law on the adoption of the present fleur-de-lis, flag of Quebec, it is said :
WHEREAS the Federal authorities seem to be opposed to the adoption of an exclusively Canadian flag and consequently fail to provide Our Country, Canada, with a flag to which it is entitled;
Ironic twist of faith... The most important national symbol of Quebec wouldn't have been adopted at that time if the Federal would've been more nationalist! (In the Canadian sense, of course).
Luc-Vartan Baronian, 23 March 1997
[ ](../images/c/ca!1947.jpg)image located by Bill Garrison, 7 September 2015
Proposals of 1955/1956
[ ](../images/c/ca!1955a.gif)image by Eugene Ipavec and Clay Moss, 1 December 2009
[ ](../images/c/ca!1955b.gif)image by Eugene Ipavec and Clay Moss, 1 December 2009
Here is the first part of an article on the front page of the (Toronto) Globe and Mail for February 4, 1955.
York Centre MP Wants New Flag
By George Bain
Ottawa, Feb. 3 (Staff) -- An old cause got a new champion today. The cause was the adoption of a new Canadian flag, and the champion was A. H. Hollingworth (L, York Centre), a 36-year-old lawyer who was elected for the first time in 1953. Mr. Hollingworth introduced in the Commons a bill asking the secretary of state to bring in a design for a distinctive Canadian flag which would be acceptable to all Canada. The Toronto area member believes he has such a design. Mr. Hollingworth's flag would have the Union Jack in the upper left corner, next the staff; it would have a white ground and on the fly there would be a red or green maple leaf.
Outside the House, Mr. Hollingworth said he was convinced the Union Jack was essential if the flag was to find acceptance in English-speaking Canada. The white ground, he hoped, would appeal to French-speaking Canadians. The red or green leaf -- the color would be decided on aesthetic grounds -- would be equally appreciated by both.
Seconder for Mr. Hollingworth's bill was Bona Arsenault (L, Bonaventure), an old campaigner for a new flag. Mr. Arsenault last session introduced his own flag bill, but it perished on the order paper.
(L means Liberal, of course. The rest of the article is about generalities, such as the need for broad support for any new flag and how the House of Commons grants only a brief time to a private member's bill, rarely even voting on it.) I came across this accidentally while reading something else on the same page, so I don't know if there were any other articles about this bill or Arsenault's proposal of, presumably, 1954.
Mark Brader, 27 November 2009
On April 27, 1955, on pages 1 and 2, the Globe and Mail ran a story about another Canadian flag proposal. This one was designed by J.W. Bradfield of the Toronto Young Men's Canadian Club, and it was hoped that the club would officially sponsor the proposal and other Young Men's Canadian Clubs across the country would promote its adoption. However, the Canadian Club, the parent body of these clubs, might not consider it advisable to get into such a controversial issue. Prime Minister St. Laurent was shown the design and his reaction was said to be enthusiastic.
The design consisted of four quadrants, something like Panama's, but with red in the upper left, blue in the lower right, and the other two white. The red quadrant would feature three lions couchant, the blue one three fleur-de-lis, and each white quadrant, three red maple leaves.
The story reviews the current legal status of the Red Ensign and ends as follows:
"However, at the moment the House has still to deal with a private bill introduced by A.H. Hollingworth (L. York Centre), which would require the Secretary of State to select a suitable national flag, submit it to the cabinet for approval, and report to Parliament 30 days after the opening of the next session. This procedure for determining a national flag would provide an avenue for the Toronto Young Men's Canadian Club plans."
Mark Brader, 27 December 2009
[ ](../images/c/ca!195x.gif) image by Eugene Ipavec, 29 July 2010
On May 23, 1956, the Globe and Mail ran a letter to the editor on page 6, from a Frank McDonald of Toronto, reading as follows:
"I would like to congratulate Senator Jean Francois Pouliot on his design of the new Canadian flag. I think it beautiful. As it is free from any European emblem it should suit all Canadians."
I found this accidentally while searching for something else. I did a Globe and Mail search for "Pouliot" and "flag" starting about 6 weeks before this date, but the quality of ProQuest's OCR is so bad that it not only did not find the letter I had read, but it did not find any hits at all until July 4, 1957.
Turning to Google News Archive Search was more productive. I searched for "Pouliot" and "flag" in the years 1950-70. The first relevant hit was an Ottawa Citizen article, March 23, 1955, page 30:
Pouliot Urges Maple Leaf Alone In Flag
Toronto (CP) -- Jean-Francois Pouliot, Liberal member of Parliament for Temiscouata, said Tuesday night the time has come for a "distinctive and official" Canadian flag, bearing only one emblem, the maple leaf.
Speaking to the Toronto junior board of trade, he said the Union Jack could fly alongside a new national flag but should not supersede it. "Too many English-Canadians continue to be more British than Canadian and reject every project for a standard that does not include the Union flag", he said.
This doesn't say that he has embraced a specific color scheme for the plain maple leaf flag, but in another Ottawa Citizen article a year later, when he's moved on to the Senate, he has. (Hence my subject line; I don't know whether to call this a 1955 or a 1956 proposal.)
March 19, 1956, page 3:
Lions or Leopards Pouliot Takes Whack At The Canadian Flag
Senator Jean Francois Pouliot took another whack at one of his favorite subjects Sunday night -- the Canadian flag. In a good-natured talk to some 300 attending a St. Jean Baptiste Society "French Night" Sunday evening he kept St. Jean Baptiste parish hall reverberating with laughter.
Spreading the Red Ensign over his broad chest, Sen. Pouliot pointed to the lions which form part of the Canadian crest. "Can you see this?" he shouted at the audience. "No, of course, you can't. The lions aren't even as big as squirrels." Then he recalled that at one time there was a dispute as to whether the lions were really lions or whether they were leopards.Few Know Meaning
Sen. Pouliot's point was that very few Canadians -- let alone people of other countries -- know what the symbols of the present Canadian flag mean. "The Red Ensign is an insult to the Union Jack", he exclaimed. "Look at it. The Union Jack, which I consider one of the most beautiful flags in the world, occupies only a quarter."
The grey-haired senator with the mischievous twinkle in his eyes made plain his respect for the British flag but added: "It is the emblem of another country." Later he said: "I am not anti-British. I'm pro-Canadian."
He had a Union Jack, a Red Ensign and a third flag -- a green maple leaf on a red field -- standing on the desk where he was speaking. He reached over for the third one.Would Be Recognized "This one", he said, "would be recognized in all parts of the world as the noble emblem of Canada." Then seizing the Red Ensign once more, he added that its insignia were little more than a "cabalistic" mystery to most. A distinctly Canadian flag, he said, would do much to increase respect for this country amongst Canadians and amongst people of other nations.
(I have omitted the last three paragraphs, which have nothing to do with flags, corrected some typos, and perhaps added some of my own.)
So this would be like the 1947 proposal above, only with the red extended to replace the white triangle.
On May 11, 1956, the Citizen ran an editorial:
Senator Pouliot As Flag Designer One of the difficulties Canada's multitude of self-appointed flag designers run into is that they allow themselves to become entangles by rule instead of striking out boldly. They think in terms of heraldry and symbolism, and that can be fatal. Consider Ottawa's new coat of arms, for example: it is brimming with symbols of the past, present and future; it is no doubt heraldically correct; it is fascinating to behold; but few will deny that it is a conglomeration of objects.
The same thing happens with the average flag designer gets out his box of crayons. He finds he must put in something to show the British connection and also New France; then he muses on the seas at Canada's gates and designates these by two blue wavy lines, only to remember that a third sea is of growing importance in the nation's life; and that in turn leads to thoughts of the boundless North, which must be symbolized by a white square, or something. And so it goes.
Senator Jean Francois Pouliot, however, will have none of this. Senator Pouliot has also turned his hand to flag-making. More than that, he flies his flag from his home at Riviere du Loup, much after the fashion of a baron of old. The point about Senator Pouliot's flag is that it by-passes nearly all the available symbols. It consists of a green maple leaf on a solid red background. Why red? "Because red is flashy; it can be seen from far away." And why green? "Because Canada is a growing country." Perhaps this is not the design that most Canadians will eventually agree upon for their own flag, but Senator Pouliot has at least shown how to throw off the shackles of symbolism.
He made the proposal official the following year, but now with a more political meaning for the two colors. As reported in the Ottawa Citizen on April 9, 1957:
National Flag Is Proposed By Pouliot Senator Jean-Francois Pouliot proposes that Canada adopt a national flag consisting of a large green maple leaf on a red background. The Quebec Liberal senator made the suggestion in a notice of motion presented in the upper house Monday night. The motion, scheduled for debate Wednesday, said: "Canada should have a distinctive national flag consisting of a large green maple leaf (the color of the House of Commons) as the national emblem of Canada, on a red background (the color of the Senate) without any other emblem of any kind on the fly of the flag."
Outside the Senate, Senator Pouliot said is the color of the House of Commons and red the color of the Senate. The Canadian Red Ensign now is used for all practical purposes as Canada's official flag.
After this the story fades out -- there's one more story two days later, which doesn't really add anything -- so I assume that the motion met with the usual fate of private members' bills, and Pouliot just went on speaking about it to audiences as suitable opportunities occurred.
Mark Brader, 3 July 2010
Proposal of 1962
[ ](../images/c/ca!1962.gif)image by Eugene Ipavec, 14 September 2007
Proposal (from the beginning of the century) for a Canadian flag by John-Guy Labarre in 1962 : it has the polar star.
This is the second Quebecois proposal for a Canadian flag that I mention.
Luc-Vartan Baronian, 19 March 1997
Star proposal
[ ](../images/c/ca!star.gif)image by Eugene Ipavec, 22 October 2007
I have an unusual flag which looks like it's a combination of three flags, British, Canadian and US.
The background is like the British flag without the diagonal stripes, there is a green maple leaf in the center and there are three stars on either side in the red stripe and two stars on either side in the vertical red stripe.
Chantale Ladouceur, 26 May 2006
It took some searching, but a flag matching the description can be found on p.74 of Archbold's I Stand For Canada [abd02], in the photo of the Flag Committee (along with hundreds of other designs). At the top left, the bottom of the flag can be seen just behind the Pearson Pennant, and directly above the head of John Matheson, Prime Minister Pearson's right-hand man on the flag issue. The colours and design seem to match, the centre is not visible. The stars on the lower arm of the cross (the only stars visible) are "points-down", and the width of the cross and fimbriation are rather wide.
(There is a second edition of this book which may have different page numbering or include different photos).
Dean McGee, 27 May 2006
Proposal of 1964: The Pearson Pennant
[ ](../images/c/ca!1964p.gif) image by Eugene Ipavec, 14 September 2007
Apparently there is a flag that looks like the Canadian flag, but with blue stripes. ... What was that flag?
There have been a number of replies to this inquiry that more or less answered the question. The white flag with the triple red maple leaves on a single stem, and blue bands at either end of the field, is called the "Pearson Pennant" and was designed [but see writings by Matheson - ed.] by that Canadian Prime Minister subsequent to the Anglo-Egyptian difficulties over the Suez Canal in the late 1950s. Seems the Canadians were offered as "peace-keepers" but the Egyptians objected, saying (in reference to the Canadian Red Ensign) "Look at the Union Jack in their flag and you'll see that Canadians cannot be objective." That really kicked the Canadian flag issue into the forefront of public debate, culminating in 1965.
Nick Artimovich, 27 September 1996
Not being Canadian I will not try to get into the symbolism of either the Pearson Pennant, nor the Maple Leaf Flag adopted in 1965, but I agree with Dave Kendall that the flag that was adopted is far superior to Pearson's design. I will offer my opinion that the Maple Leaf Flag is the most attractive national flag in the world, considering both from a graphic design standpoint and from a historic perspective: it is simple (two colors, very few graphic elements), distinctive (so much so that the use of a square in the middle of a 2:1 flag is termed a "Canadian Pale"), and easy to recognize/recall (once you know that Canada's colors are red and white, and that the maple leaf has been part of the national iconography for the better part of two centuries.)
Nick Artimovich, 27 September 1996
Nick Artimovich provided more information than I had regarding the history of the "Pearson Pennant", but I stand by my opinion about its superiority to the current flag. Its blue stripes at hoist and fly are unmatched as a fit of words ["A mari usque ad mare"] to pictorial representation, and this inclusion of blue incorporates an important color of French flags into a Canadian one.
Carl S. Gurtman, 1 October 1996
I have been working through the contributions to you web page on the flag and been struck by how much is forgotten so quickly. I thought I might refer people to a book by somebody who really knows.
John Matheson was probably the most important figure in the design of the flag. In the drive for a flag he gives full credit to Prime Minister Pearson; indeed, at times his remarks about Pearson border on hagiography. However I think the book is close to being exhaustive on the subject. There you will find the answers to colours, including shade of red, three vs. one leaf, size and shape, and the incredible work just to secure a dye that wouldn't fade in 30 days.
What I found most lacking in the book was any discussion of an ensign for the armed forces [they were unified by then]. Nor is any consideration given to a separate flag for the merchant marine. I feel we missed a real opportunity then. Upon re-reading the book recently I thought to write Mr. Matheson and ask him about this, but he would be 82 years old now and I am not at all sure he is still alive.
Any way, I have extracted some bits from the book and include them here :Matheson
Patrick Brabazon, 12 July 1999
I've been reading parts of the "Globe and Mail" of the spring of 1964 for other reasons, and have seen a great deal of content about the Canadian flag proposals. While the "Pearson pennant" design had been in the news for some time already, it was first announced officially as a proposal on May 27, 1964, as reported on the paper the next day. The article says the design was finalized "between 10 p.m. and 1 a.m." the previous night by Alan B. Beddoe, "retired naval commander "and an expert on heraldry", and it continues:
During a press briefing to explain the details of the flag, Cmdr. Beddoe told reporters that the three red maple leaves on a white background is the official Canadian symbol on the country's coat-of-arms.
Through not correct by heraldic standards, the blue sections, each of which is one-tenth the width of the flag, were added both to represent Canada's motto -- A Mari Usque Ad Mare (from sea to sea) -- and to add a touch of glamor.
It also notes that:
Within minutes of the unveiling of the official design, critics were making cracks about the stems of the highly-stylized maple leaves. Bulges in the stems, where they are going together, reminded critics of what they called complicated plumbing. Cmdr. Beddoe observed that a close study of the stem of a real maple leaf will disclose a slight bulge at the base.
Note that the blue stripes are narrower than shown above. They don't mention what shade of blue was being considered. I have seen the thing drawn with a much lighter blue, but I don't know which shade is correct. Here is the paper's illustration of Beddoe's design:
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Soon afterwards, they put an actual flag of the Pearson pennant design up on Parliament Hill. Unfortunately ProQuest's scan of that image, from the May 30 paper, is pretty terrible, but for what it's worth, it isarchived here. I should add that it was suggested about that time that Beddoe's design would be simplified before the Commons voted on it, but I have not read enough to know exactly what happened -- in particular, whether or not they went straight to the design finally adopted.
Mark Brader, 11 September 2020
I should add that it was suggested about that time that Beddoe's design would be simplified before the Commons voted on it, but I have not read enough to know exactly what happened -- in particular, whether or not they went straight to the design finally adopted. On June 8, 1964, the "Globe and Mail" reported on modifications to the design. They said the blue bars had been "widened slightly" while the maple leaves were made slightly smaller, with the stems straightened and made thinner.
As to the colors, the blue was "deepened to bring it closer to a royal blue", while the leaves were "also deepened" to be "close to scarlet". There is nothing more specific and no illustration.
Mark Brader, 13 September 2020
From the Globe and Mail, June 18, 1964, page 10:
"Members of Parliament each received a flag yesterday, showing a single red maple leaf on a plain white background. Not a blue bar in sight. The three-foot by two-foot flag is the design of Chris Yaneff of Toronto and he says he won a 1,000awardforitfromCanadianArtmagazine.Hedoesn′tknowhowmuchitcosttohavethe300flagsmadeformailing,buthesaysheestimatesthecostatabout1,000 award for it from Canadian Art magazine. He doesn't know how much it cost to have the 300 flags made for mailing, but he says he estimates the cost at about 1,000awardforitfromCanadianArtmagazine.Hedoesn′tknowhowmuchitcosttohavethe300flagsmadeformailing,buthesaysheestimatesthecostatabout1 to $1.50 each. However, he saved on postage. Mail to MPs (and senators) goes free while Parliament is in session.
Yaneff, of course, was a leading graphic designer of the era. He and his company were responsible for many successful logos and such.
Mark Brader, 30 October 2020
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Advertisement, Globe and Mail, January 6, 1965. As far as I know the government had not yet released the detailed specifications for the flag -- which might explain the proportions in the image! Also note that they described a 12-inch flag as large.
Mark Brader, 11 November 2020
A clipping from a Canadian newspaper :
From The Globe and Mail, Dec 1, 1965
Scientists can keep the new flag red
OTTAWA-Scientists at the National Research Council have licked the problem of the fading red in the Maple Leaf Flag.
Precise specifications for the dyestuffs to be used by flag manufacturers have been worked out and the forecast is that Maple Leaf flags will stay red for the life of the cloth they are made of. that life span, according to the National Defense Department, is on the average about three months of exposure to all kinds of weather. Soon after the red Maple Leaf flag was unveiled officially for the first time on Parliament Hill last February, it became evident that the red faded quickly into an orangy color and the white became a dirty grey. one of the first to be concerned about the matter was Prime Minister Lester Pearson who pushed the new flag through Parliament last year. Oral rockets were fired in all directions, and considerably turned down written instructions went out from his office to all Government departments to find a solution to the problem. As the government's main research body, the NRC was given the job of establishing the proper color specifications to be used in flag manufacturing and the problem was dumped on the desk of Gunter Wyszecki, a German-born specialist in the field of color who claims he has one of the world's best laboratories to conduct his paraments in his chosen field. Dr. Wyszecki said yesterday that with the co-operation of the flag manufacturers, textiles mills, dyemakers and printers the basic problem of color and color fastness has been solved. He estimates there are perhaps 10,000,000 measurable colors, of which 500,000 are reds.
The Commons flag committee had specified that the red in the Maple Leaf flag should be the red of the Red Ensign. So, when the Maple Leaf flag was finally approved, somebody at defense headquarters was instructed to provide manufacturers with a piece of red taken from a Red Ensign and to guide them in making new flags. Unfortunately, the Swatch of cloth was taken from a Red Ensign that was not the right red. the result is that the new flag turned orangy within a few weeks - a not uncommon experience with Red Ensigns. However, because of the large amount of contrasting white in the Maple Leaf flag, the fading of the red was much more noticeable than it was in the ensigns.
to help in the tests, the NRC obtained two swatches is of Red Ensigns from the British Admiralty and the difference in red is quickly apparent to the naked eye. But after running a series of tests, Dr. Wyszecki believes that he has come up with the red that most closely represents what the flag committee had in mind when it said the flag should have the red of the Red Ensign.
test snow will be made on what he called constructed flags: flags made of dyed nylon sewn together. These are heavier than the printed nylon flags.
Mark Brader, 30 March 2021
This is interesting, as the red on the Maple Leaf Flag (as defined by the Federal Identity Program) has the RGB value of 255:0:0, whereas theRed Ensign uses 204:0:0 (at least on FOTW).
Miles Li, 30 march 2021
A.Y. Jackson proposal
[ ](../images/c/ca!ayj.jpg) image located by Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 15 April 2012
Source: http://collectionscanada.gc.ca
The ultimate source for the proposals would be the Canadian National Archives. Having tried that, I found a proposal by A.Y. Jackson which indeed matches the description: "a design involving a maple leaf red white and blue". It has narrow red hoist and fly wise borders, but its top and bottom borders are wavy blue.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 15 April 2012
Louise Parent proposal
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In October 1962, Louise Parent was a fringe candidate for Mayor of Montreal. Because she was the first woman to run for the position, on October 5 the "Globe and Mail" ran a short article about her.
"She would press the Federal Government", it says, "to adopt a Canadian flag. Her choice is an all-white background with the word Canada in capital letters emblazoned across it. Mrs. Parent admitted this has nothing to do with municipal politics, but she thought it was a good point anyway."
(In the election on October 28, Jean Drapeau was reelected with approximately 90% of the vote.)
Mark Brader, 11 November 2019
Facts from Radio Canada
A clip from April 1964 gave some numbers in connection with the debate:
Total number of entries sent in: 3541 number of entries that contained the following elements:
- maple leaves: 2136
- union jacks: 408
- beavers: 389
- Fleur-de-lys: 359
- Canadian coat of arms: 127
- Provincial coat of arms: 122 Marc Pasquin, 16 February 2005
No flag proposal
In a letter to the editor of the "Globe and Mail" on June 3, 1964, one Paul Ludger of Guelph suggested that the Canadian government should:
...consider the possibility of declaring that Canada will be the world's first nation to commit itself to rationality and be officially flagless. Think of the hope we could offer to the weary millions of the world who are simply sick and tired of nationalism and all the bleating stupidity it entails.
I, for one, would look with quiet and reasonable pride on the one flagpole at the United Nations which in its bold nudity would declare that there was, at long last, at least one nation in the world above rag-worship.
Mark Brader, 12 September 2020
Humorous political cartoon
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image by Marc Pasquin
Here's a political cartoon from the early 1960s about changing the Canadian flag. I believe it's from the Toronto Star. Originally it was black & white; I just coloured the flag.
There are four politicians in it: Prime Minister Lester Pearson (LP), Former Prime Minister John Diefenbaker (PC), Tommy Douglas (NDP) and the leader of the Quebec-based Social Credit party. Pearson wanted a pure Canadian flag with no connection to the mother nations. Diefenbaker wanted with connection to our British Founders. The Quebec leader wanted connection to our French roots. The artists at that time had field days with this.
Wm. L. Houle, 19-21 August 2000