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Dripping Water Noise Diagnosis

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Dripping Water Sounds in buildings, How to Track Down

Dripping Sounds in or on buildings can come from a variety of sources but almost always involve water. See

Air conditioner condensate
handling system leaks can produce dripping sounds heard at the air handler, anywhere along condensate piping systems, at a plumbing vent fed by a condensate drain line (bad practice), or anywhere that condensate has leaked into a building cavity.
In our photo (left) condensate dripped into the air handler causing rust damage.
See CONDENSATE LEAKS
ATTIC CONDENSATION CAUSE & CURE and Ice Dam Leaks - Detection and Correcting Venting and Condensation Problems in buildings - melting ice inside of an attic or outside on the building eaves can produce dripping sounds as well as water damage
Chimney leaks
can produce a dripping sound heard indoors. Leaks at or around a chimney cap or crown may drip down a vertical flue, slapping on a fireplace damper or on an elbow in a metal chimney or flue vent connector.
Watch out: rust-damaged metal chimneys or flue vent connectors may release dangerous combustion gases into the building. And water dripping down chimneys can also damage heating appliances connected to the leaky flue.
See details at CHIMNEY STAINS & LEAKS
Drain piping noises
from clogged or partly clogged drains such as gurgling or bubbling drain sounds but we have on occasion also traced a dripping sound to building drains, particularly when there is a slow plumbing supply leak (such as a running toilet) that drips water down a vertical drain section.
The noise of droplets hitting the drain elbow or horizontal pipe at the bottom of the vertical run can drive some folks crazy.

Drips at plumbing fixtures
may make an obvious drip or splash sound.

But dripping water can be tricky to track down. Don't forget to consider the following:

A small water supply leak

inside of a building cavity can produce a noise that is hard to track down. Supply pipe leaks may be continuous (and thus are eventually discovered by water stains or mold) or intermittent, such as a leak around a tub or shower control that drips into the wall cavity only when the valve is turned "on".

These leaks may drip into a drain (discussed above) or into a building ceiling, wall, or even floor cavity.

Watch out when making temporary faucet drip leak repairs.

Drip noise, cat scratch, homeowner knocked out:
In Vineland New Jersey a family acquaintance was sent downstairs by his wife who wanted him to investigate a "burglar noise" she heard in the kitchen.
There was no home invader but the kitchen faucet was dripping. Omitting embarrassing details we note that the homeowner, in his usual night-time sleeping outfit (nothing) kneeled at the kitchen sink to turn off water to the nighttime annoyance. His pose was just too tempting to the family cat who swiped and clawed a tender area on the midnight plumbing drip leak repairman.
Screaming in pain our acquaintance leapt upwards, smacked his head on the sink drain, cut his scalp, and fell unconscious half in and half out of the sink cabinet.
Mrs. homeowner, hearing the shout, called the Vineland police who on entry found an embarrassed owner bleeding from his scalp and from another part, and the cat sitting smugly by the fireplace.
A drain piping leak
inside of a building cavity can also produce a noise that is hard to track down.
But a drain drip noise should not be present when no fixtures have water running into them. But don't forget that a quietly running toilet can also produce a drip or other plumbing problems downstream from the toilet in the building drain piping.

Often we can correlate dripping noises to specific fixtures or faucets (drips occur only when water is running), or to specific fixture drains (dripping noises from a leaky drain line occur only when the drain is carrying water).

Watch for slow water leaks
at sinks, tubs, showers, dripping fixtures and piping, including plumbing drips inside wall cavities.
Check for slow leaks at toilet flush valves
Look for intermittent sources of discharge into building drains
such as from HVACR condensate pumps and sump pumps
Correlate the dripping noise to use of plumbing fixtures
elsewhere in the building
Correlate the dripping noise to weather and time of year;
In addition to the ice dam leaks cited below, in cold weather frost forms in plumbing vents, later to melt and flow or drip back through the vent and drain system.
Similarly, some building roofs drain through piping routed through the building interior - another source of dripping sounds in some weather conditions such as light rain or melting ice and snow.

See details at PLUMBING DRAIN NOISE DIAGNOSIS

Roof drainage system dripping sounds:
while most people have no trouble recognizing the source of dripping sounds from melting snow or ice on building roofs or other exterior surfaces, occasionally you may need to track down dripping sounds heard indoors but originating in the gutter and downspout system for the building.
A mostly clogged roof gutter, when filled with water or melting snow and ice, may drip audibly at the end-drop connection to the downspout. Water droplets falling in the vertical downspout section make a satisfying SPLAT sound when landing at the elbow usually found at the downspout's lower end.

Research on Dripping Water Sound Localization

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These authors provide an excellent bibliography of references for sound transmission in buildings, including some of the references cited just below:
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Thanks to audiologist Cheryl P. Harllee, licensed hearing specialist, for discussing noises and noise problems in preparation for this article. Ms. Harllee can be located at the Village Hearing Center, 249 U.S. Highway One, Tequesta FL 33469 561-744-0231
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I have been unable to sleep in bedroom For 1 year due to intermittent drip noises (sounds sometimes like it’s hitting water but no leak) but especially loud waterfall noise in wall where stack is. You can hear the same noise in both bathrooms also which are side to side and there is a stack there also . I am On first floor in 9 story building built in 1969. Cast iron in the vertical stacks. Plumbers are clueless and say the noise is not normal. Louder than it should be. I don’t know where to turn.

This query was posted originally at https://inspectapedia.com/plumbing/Plumbing\_Vent\_Definitions.php PLUMBING VENT CODES & DEFINITIONS

In addition to the suggestions above on this page, there are two fundamental approaches that can be useful in tracking down a dripping noise in building drain waste or vent piping:

1. have a plumbing inspection camera scan the vent and drain system from the top down; that will show where the water is entering or accumulating in the vent or drain system.

2. look for a plumbing fixture that is permitting a slow, ongoing water leak, such as a running toilet.

Those can be hard to spot, especially if the toilet leak is a slow one. So you might also want to review

TOILET RUNS CONTINUOUSLY

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Dripping noise in outside pipe that goes into drain. Turned water off ... dripping stopped. Can there be a leakage?

I have a dripping noise coming from my attic. There isn't any plumbing upstairs (with the exception of toilet vents coming from the attic floor going thru the roof) and there isn't any obvious water marks. When in the attic the sound seems like it's coming from above our head. It's mid day, not a cloud in the sky & nothing hanging over our house.

Also our ducting is ran under the floor of our 2nd floor loft. I might add that we have not ran the ac or the heater in about 2 days. When we flush the master toilet it definitely effects the speed of the dripping. There is no dripping on the outside of the house either. Please help.

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