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What kind of work is being done at the other language projects to wind them down prior to going read-only? Thanks. Michael.C.Wright (talk) 01:07, 21 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Michael.C.Wright I don't know about anything others are doing. What I am doing is to replace uses of DPL with raw wikitext to avoid them looking bad once we undeploy the extension. For example, see n:es:Special:Contributions/Dexbot. Amir (talk) 13:28, 21 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

I have proposed that Dexbot be unblocked at en.WN: n:Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals#Proposal to unblock bot for final DPL cleanup. Michael.C.Wright (talk) 16:24, 23 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Leaderboard has already unblocked Dexbot at en.WN.[1] Can you evaluate n:Wikinews:Archives and let me know what you need from me prior to running the bot to replace DPL with static lists on n:Wikinews:Archives, it's sub-pages, linked pages, etc?As mentioned on the proposal, please avoid the following pages, which I will do manually:

I'll make myself available to reduce protection as-needed. You previously mentioned something about not needing flood or admin. I don't understand how that technically works, but we do have two local buearucrats that may be able to help with that if necessary. If you need me to make any requests of them, let me know or you are welcome to as well. Thanks in advance for your help! Michael.C.Wright (talk) 16:39, 23 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Hi. On it.wikinews we have some problems with "staticization" of DPL.

  1. 🟡️(not critical) Wrong bullet list (fixed manually in homepage, but I don't know in other places)
  2. 🔴️(critical) nidification of DPL in templates don't work well: our Portals becomes empty (eg.) because they use a parametric Template to call DPL, and the bot delete DPL from the template

I've tested a workaround moving raw code from the Template to a Portal with some changes to de-parametrize, but it's manual and bot must rerun on modified Portal. I hope this (especially 2° point) can be fixed in some fully-automatic way. Tks a lot --Infosfera (talk) 08:18, 25 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Hello @Ladsgroup, we see the same bullet list editing problem on fr.wikinews, for instance : on this article. Nivopol (talk) 13:24, 25 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Please pause use on en.WN until this is sorted out. Thank you. Michael.C.Wright (talk) 13:32, 25 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

I just checked n:Australia/2004 and n:Australia/2005 and the lists look accurate, just not consistently formatted with bulleted lists. Michael.C.Wright (talk) 13:39, 25 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

I've corrected bulletized all the Australia/year pages except n:Australia/2009. On that page, all the links are enclosed in <nowiki>. I'm not sure if that is a step in the bot's process, so I haven't touched that page. Let me know how I can help. Thanks. Michael.C.Wright (talk) 14:02, 25 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Infosfera, @Michael.C.Wright and @Nivopol: I actually fixed the bug for bullet point before running on English (with the exception of only one link, I can fix that separately). It is stopped now and I will do a check and revert anything that it has made a mistake. I'll also fix all of the bullet point mistakes in other languages. Amir (talk) 16:53, 25 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Many thanks Amir. What about the problem 2 (DPL nidified in template)? Can we do something on pages/code/template to help the bot to work well, before the 4 May dead(death!)line? -- Infosfera (talk) 19:08, 25 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

My plan for now is to check and revert anything on template namespace. On how to fix those. I'd say we have to do it manually I think, you could theoretically use Special:ExpandTemplates and then parse the results and then translate it back from HTML to wikitext but it's going to be basically impossible to do automatically. Do you have a sense of how many pages need updating in your wiki? Amir (talk) 22:38, 25 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Progress update: Checked and reverted anything bad in Italian Wikinews (editing on template, the critical problem). I will check other wikis too. Also wrote a script to fix the mistakes of the bullet list. It's running and fixing stuff (example) Amir (talk) 23:11, 25 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Once you get it all buttoned-down and are comfortable with it, feel free to resume at en.WN. And thanks again for sticking with it! Michael.C.Wright (talk) 00:36, 26 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Amir "how many pages need updating" for DPL in templates, in it.wn AFAIK Portals are built using templates containing DPL.

Portals are about arguments and nations.

So, I've searched inclusion of templates containing DPL, ant the result is:

About the date of 17 feb 2025 associated to a lot of pages by DPL, perhaps is out-of-your-scope, but it will be great to fix also this when "staticizing" DPL lists: for my scopes, some time ago I've added a specific CSS ID "data-articolo" to the date in each article page, so a bot can easily retrieve the info from each article to fix the problem when detect wrong "17 feb 2025" (only trim-out the first word, the day-of-week).

I don't have advanced permission on it.wn, but if I can do some "stupid&easy" stuff before the deadline, ask me. -- Infosfera (talk) 08:26, 26 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Infosfera For the portals, I suggest using Special:ExpandTemplates to deprecate using the n:it:Template:Argomento altogether. Near the closure date, we can update the pages then. Does that make sense? Regarding the "17 Feb 2025" issue, I noticed it in other wikinews wikis too but I'm honestly too swamped to investigate and fix it. Sorry. Amir (talk) 14:27, 27 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

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Thank you very much for the work you've done at en.WN.I believe the only critical pages left with DPL are n:Wikinews:Archives. User pages are not a concern and the remaining pages in Main namespace will be done manually by me, by this Thursday. If you can focus your next round at en.WN on n:Wikinews:Archives, I think we'll be good-to-go. Thanks again! Michael.C.Wright (talk) 14:42, 27 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Amir, ok, I will go to "expand" the Portals to "prepare the terrain" for the bot. tks.

For the date, I will try to ask if somebody at it.wiki can do the fix: if yes, I will ask you to run the DPL remover before. See you. --Infosfera (talk) 19:18, 27 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Michael.C.Wright Those pages all are protected. We could give my bot admin rights until May 4th so it can edit those pages. Amir (talk) 19:19, 27 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

I'm not sure we're looking at the same thing.The page n:Wikinews:Archives is only protected to auto-confirmed. Sub-pages such as n:Wikinews:Archives/Date/2011 don't appear to be protected at all (I've just checked several at random). The bot has already done some, such as n:Wikinews:2011/February/14 Michael.C.Wright (talk) 01:08, 28 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Michael.C.Wright The DPL doesn't exist on n:Wikinews:Archives nor on n:Wikinews:Archives/Date/2011, it is on the subpages such as n:Wikinews:2011/April/18 which is already done by the bot or n:Wikinews:2006/August/26 that are protected. Amir (talk) 12:11, 28 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

I started the script under my own account that has GIE so it can bypass protection Amir (talk) 14:57, 28 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

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I was wondering how you were editing protected pages. Thanks. Michael.C.Wright (talk) 17:07, 28 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Hi Amir. Can you please re-run the bot on this? Also the Portals (Cultura e società | Curiosità | Disastri e incidenti | Economia e finanza | Giustizia e criminalità | Meteo | Necrologi | Politica e conflitti | Trasporti | Scienza e tecnologia | Sport) are template-expanded and ready for the bot.

Is the bot script available somewhere so that I can run it on individual pages if needed?

Tks! -- Infosfera (talk) 15:53, 30 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Infosfera: I ran the bot and it updated some pages under my username but these pages didn't get updated since they have {{PAGENAME}}. If you replace them, the bot can run it. I'll try to put the script somewhere soon so you can run it too. Amir (talk) 16:03, 30 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

phab:P92102. It's quite hacky and crappy but it's a one-off thing so meh. Amir (talk) 16:10, 30 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Thank you, I willl look if I'm able to run py on wiki...!

Done {PAGENAME} removed. Infosfera (talk) 16:25, 30 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Oops, I've forget this Portal! -- Infosfera (talk) 18:35, 30 April 2026 (UTC) Done manually with js help. --Infosfera (talk) 14:12, 1 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, do you know the exact time of shutdown? It's "4 may" but this mean 4 may 0:00 UTC+0, 4 may 23:59 UTC+0, 3 may 23:59 UTC+0, or something different? Or is it a surprise? --Infosfera (talk) 13:34, 3 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Infosfera it'll be around afternoon or evening UTC time, since people are traveling after Wikimedia Hackathon. It'll also be done gradually so it'll take a while. I can try to make itwikinews be the last to give you more time. Amir (talk) 13:37, 3 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Ok, tks. @Mess, a sysop from it.wiki, is trying to fix the 250 country portals problem (expanding templates), but I don't know if he can also staticize DPL using your py code. If not, we need a last pass of your Dexbot before close. On my side, the question was only because I just wanted to post a "closing article", but I will do tomorrow morning UTC+1 or this evening, so for me don't worry about more time! -- Infosfera (talk) 13:56, 3 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Several pages on en.WN use {{#tag:dynamicpagelist}} to construct DPLs. For example: n:Template:DateDPL. I know this is last-minute, but do you have time to run through en.WN for that construction as well? Thanks in advance. Michael.C.Wright (talk) 14:29, 3 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Hi Amir. I confirm that we can "expand" templates with DPL, but a last run of your Dexbot to staticize DPL's lists is required for Portals. I hope you can do it tomorrow. Thank you very much! -- Infosfera (talk) 18:48, 3 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. Running it now. Amir (talk) 09:29, 4 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Stopped after 127 edits... some throttling happens due to non-bot-flagged user? -- Infosfera (talk) 10:42, 4 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Infosfera Nope. Just spotty connection in (Italian) train :D I will get to finish it before making the wiki read only (and it's not a 100% read-only, global interface admins like myself and stewards can still edit it) Amir (talk) 11:37, 4 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Ok, I apologize! :D May I ask to check before freezing that the article about WN shutdown stay on top as in other language editions like en.wn? Somebody insist on put his articles about tennis and soccer as last ones, but it doesn't seem like a good idea in terms of image, "history" of the project and a good "business card" for posterity. Tks! -- Infosfera (talk) 13:57, 4 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Noted. Amir (talk) 14:09, 4 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Last night, since it wasn't closed yet, I still managed to fix the date issues on Portals that DPL had for some reason (eg.), using in semi-manual mode a botched js that did its job, though. Thank you for everything!!! 🙏️-- Infosfera (talk) 16:57, 5 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Infosfera Thank you for the clean up. I will close the wiki now. Amir (talk) 18:37, 5 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

https://it.wikinews.org/wiki/Portale:Unione_Europea and https://it.wikinews.org/wiki/Portale:Mondo are escaped to my cleanup, but... oh well! -- Infosfera (talk) 18:54, 5 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Infosfera I think I fixed Portal:Mondo. The other one didn't need fixing (or my bot did it?). The wiki is still open for a couple more hours Amir (talk) 22:22, 5 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

The problem is the wrong "17 feb 2025": the date-fixed code is:

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[[Immagine:Flag of Europe.svg|70px left Bandiera Unione Europea]]

[[Wikinotizie:Benvenuto

 Benvenuto]] nella sezione di '''Wikinotizie''' dedicata agli avvenimenti accaduti in '''[[w:Unione Europea Unione Europea]]'''.

[[:categoria:Unione Europea

 Tutte le notizie nazionali]] [[Portale:Europa Notizie continentali]] [//it.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Unione_Europea&action=purge Aggiorna] per vedere le ultime notizie

---- {		 width="100%" style="vertical-align: top; " style="vertical-align: top; " == Ultime notizie == *24 lug 2025: [[Proposta alla Camera: conto corrente come diritto "di cittadinanza"]] *10 lug 2025: [[Italia, più investimenti in difesa che nell'istruzione, un caso unico in Europa]] *2 lug 2024: [[UE: primo ok alla quinta tranches del finanziamento PNRR]] *29 apr 2024: [[Parlamento Europeo: approvata la legge sul diritto alla riparazione]] *27 apr 2023: [[Luigi Di Maio sta per essere nominato rappresentante speciale dell'Ue nel Golfo]] *1 gen 2023: [[La Croazia è entrata nell'area Schengen]] *20 dic 2022: [[La Bosnia ed Erzegovina è ufficialmente candidata ad entrare nell'Unione Europea]] *8 dic 2022: [[La Croazia entrerà nell'area economica di Schengen]] *19 set 2022: [[Europa: record di bassa disoccupazione]] *4 set 2022: [[La prof. Chiara Saffirio premiata da un ERC starting grant per una ricerca di fisica matematica]] [[Immagine:Location European Union.svg 500px center alt=Localizzazione geografica link=]] - style="border: 1px solid #cfcfbf; vertical-align: top; width: 50%;" ;[[Portale:Politica e conflitti Politica e conflitti]] *27 apr 2023: [[Luigi Di Maio sta per essere nominato rappresentante speciale dell'Ue nel Golfo]] *1 gen 2023: [[La Croazia è entrata nell'area Schengen]] *20 dic 2022: [[La Bosnia ed Erzegovina è ufficialmente candidata ad entrare nell'Unione Europea]] *8 dic 2022: [[La Croazia entrerà nell'area economica di Schengen]] *3 giu 2022: [[La Croazia è vicina all'entrata nella zona euro]] style="border: 1px solid #cfcfbf; vertical-align: top; width: 50%;" ;[[Portale:Giustizia e criminalità Giustizia e criminalità]] *7 nov 2018: [[La Corte di Giustizia UE sentenzia che l'Italia dovrà recuperare le imposte non riscosse dagli immobili di associazioni religiose ed enti non profit]] *10 nov 2008: [[Missione militare UE: sì in Somalia, no in RDC]] *27 feb 2008: [[Nuova multa dell'antitrust europeo a Microsoft]] *14 set 2006: [[La corte di giustizia europea ritiene illegittimo l'esclusione, imposta dallo stato Italiano, della detrazione ai fini IVA su alcuni beni]] - style="border: 1px solid #cfcfbf; vertical-align: top;" ;[[Portale:Economia e finanza Economia e finanza]] *24 lug 2025: [[Proposta alla Camera: conto corrente come diritto "di cittadinanza"]] *2 lug 2024: [[UE: primo ok alla quinta tranches del finanziamento PNRR]] *10 mar 2014: [[Padoan da Bruxelles rassicura sui tagli al cuneo fiscale]] *6 mag 2013: [[La BCE taglia i tassi di interesse al minimo storico dello 0,5%]] *3 nov 2012: [[Merkel: altri cinque anni di crisi]] style="border: 1px solid #cfcfbf; vertical-align: top;" ;[[Portale:Disastri e incidenti Disastri e incidenti]] - style="border: 1px solid #cfcfbf; vertical-align: top;" ;[[Portale:Scienza e tecnologia Scienza e tecnologia]] *29 apr 2024: [[Parlamento Europeo: approvata la legge sul diritto alla riparazione]] *2 feb 2017: [[Da metà giugno addio al roaming Ue]] *27 feb 2008: [[Nuova multa dell'antitrust europeo a Microsoft]] *3 mag 2005: [[L'UE dice sì alla biblioteca digitale unica]] style="border: 1px solid #cfcfbf; vertical-align: top;" ;[[Portale:Sport
Mondo
<div class="plainlinks style="margin: 0em 0 5 0%; text-align: center; font-size: 120%; line-height: 1.3; background-color: #f0eeff;">[[Wikinotizie:Benvenuto|Benvenuto]] nella sezione di '''Wikinotizie''' dedicata agli avvenimenti accaduti in '''[[w:{{PAGENAME}} {{PAGENAME}}]]'''.
[[:categoria:{{PAGENAME}}
 Archivio di tutte le notizie per questa regione]] [{{fullurl:{{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}} action=purge}} Aggiorna] per vedere le ultime notizie ---- { style="background-color: #f0eeff; width:70%" [[Immagine:LocationWorld.png left 250px Localizzazione geografica]]{{{{FULLPAGENAME}}/Intro}} rowspan=2 style="background-color: #f0eeff; width:30%" valign="top" {{{{FULLPAGENAME}}/Stati}} - style="background-color: #f0eeff; width:70%" == Ultime notizie == *4 mag 2026: [[Dopo 21 anni insieme, Wikinotizie vi saluta]] *18 apr 2026: [[Forfait di Alcaraz a Madrid, Sinner n.1 fino a Roma]] *30 mar 2026: [[Chiude Wikinews]] *15 mar 2026: [[Secondo Reuters, lo street artist Banksy potrebbe essere Robin Gunningham]] *17 gen 2026: [[Wikipedia festeggia 25 anni di sapere condiviso e libero, ma il declino è un rischio concreto]] *19 nov 2025: [[Ambiente: alla COP 30 si discute una roadmap per l’abbandono graduale dei combustibili fossili]] *30 lug 2025: [[Terremoto nella Kamčatka, scossa di magnitudo 8,8]] *19 lug 2025: [[Un anno fa il blackout globale causato da Crowdstrike: cosa è cambiato da allora?]] *12 lug 2025: [[Le regioni mondiali dove la grandine sta diventando più frequente: l'Italia tra le più colpite]] *8 lug 2025: [[Errore nella lista delle pagine su diverse versioni di Wikinotizie]] } { style="border: 1px solid #cfcfbf; background-color: #f0eeff; vertical-align: top; width:50%" ==== [[Portale:Ambiente Ambiente]] ==== *19 nov 2025: [[Ambiente: alla COP 30 si discute una roadmap per l’abbandono graduale dei combustibili fossili]] *27 set 2022: [[Fuga di gas dai gasdotti NordStream 1 e 2, allerta in Danimarca]] *2 ago 2008: [[La crisi dei mari e dei loro abitanti]] *23 giu 2008: [[Cambiamenti climatici, balene antartiche a rischio]] *23 giu 2008: [[Secondo i cacciatori, le balene affamano il Terzo mondo]] style="border: 1px solid #cfcfbf; background-color: #f0eeff; vertical-align: top;" ==== [[Portale:Curiosità Curiosità]] ==== *20 giu 2008: [[Secondo un rapporto USA, saremo sette miliardi nel 2012]] *31 dic 2007: [[Capodanno: tutto il mondo festeggia l'inizio del nuovo anno]] *13 ago 2007: [[Bild: Prodi guadagna più di Sarkozy]] *31 dic 2006: [[San Silvestro e anno nuovo, usanze nel mondo]] - style="border: 1px solid #cfcfbf; background-color: #f0eeff; vertical-align: top; width:50%" ==== [[Portale:Cultura e società

If is possible to fix it, ok; if not, it's not a drama! --Infosfera (talk) 07:46, 6 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Infosfera Fixed both Amir (talk) 11:17, 6 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Perfect! Tks for all! -- Infosfera (talk) 13:58, 6 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Ouch, a stupid typo in last greetings... I wrote that en.wikinews was born in 2024... it's 2004! if I'm still in time, it's very ugly!!! -- Infosfera (⁉️) 09:01, 8 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Infosfera I think I fixed it, can you take a look? Amir (talk) 13:18, 9 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Perfect! There is the same error 2024>2004 in [2] (only one instance of "2024" > "2004") and [3] ("dicembre 2024" > "dicembre 2004"), but is not a priority as the article itself.

For all this you deserve a beer! 🍺️ -- Infosfera (⁉️) 16:28, 9 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Infosfera both are fixed now Amir (talk) 15:36, 10 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

🍺️ Amir (talk) 21:43, 11 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for the help with en.WN and disabling DPL. That was a huge help. Michael.C.Wright (talk) 13:58, 3 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Thank you! I'm glad I was useful :) Amir (talk) 09:30, 4 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Please, can you do this replacing DynamicPageList with static wikitext also on the Finnish Wikinews before disabling DPL? Thank you. ~2026-27146-73 (talk) 13:27, 4 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Sure. I try to make sure the wiki is basically empty from DPL tags before setting it to read only Amir (talk) 14:10, 4 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Hello, I noticed your bot's work removing the DPL. Recently, Wikinews in Portuguese started using DPL as a template on date pages. For example, on the page for May 2026. That is, the bot should add a "subst:" to the "Efemérides" template, and then transform the DPL into plain text. Edu! (talk) 20:16, 4 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Edu! Thanks. I will run the pywikibot script to subst it first Amir (talk) 20:42, 4 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Edu! I tried to use pywikibot script and subst the template usages. It worked but the result is not in a form that the second bot could parse and replace with static wikitext :( Any suggestions? Amir (talk) 23:07, 4 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

It's really not working; it looks like we have to fix it manually. I'll work on it. Edu! (talk) 00:21, 5 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Edu! One sec, let me try something. Amir (talk) 00:41, 5 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Edu! It was really complicated but it worked. No need for manual work. Amir (talk) 01:12, 5 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Thank you! Could you delete this and this page? They remain with the deletion template. Edu! (talk) 19:51, 5 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Edu! Done. Amir (talk) 21:52, 5 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Hello, and thank you for your work. I am Nanona15dobato, an administrator of Japanese Wikinews.

I appreciate your efforts on the DPL replacement task. As far as I am aware, replacements within this project have already been completed, and the remaining instances appear to be only those enclosed in nowiki tags on help pages and discussion pages. Therefore, I would kindly ask you to refrain from further edits.

I have reverted your changes for the time being; however, if my understanding is incorrect, I apologize for the inconvenience and would appreciate your clarification.

I apologize for any awkwardness in my English, as this message has been translated. nanona(15) 16:13, 5 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

This ended up being a comment after the project was locked. I have restored it just in case, but I apologize if that was unnecessary. nanona(15) 16:20, 5 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Nanona15dobato No worries. My apologies for the mistake, I wasn't aware it has been cleaned up internally. Is there anything you want me to clean up after the closure? (I still can do it) Amir (talk) 18:04, 5 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Hello, I just noticed your recent edits on the n:zh:Template:Topic template expansion work on zhwikinews. I found that the expanded content still contains {{#tag:DynamicPageList|. Please take care of this. Thank you. --RainBeforeSun (talk) 12:35, 6 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Order of Merit WikinewsOrder of Merit Wikinews Order of Merit Wikinews
Hello! Allow me to present you with this award for your assistance to Wikinews in its final days. I thank you for your invaluable assistance, both to Russian Wikinews and to everyone else. Thank you very much! Sincerely, Yours S.Marchenko (talk) 08:06, 11 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

oh thank you! it's an honour and I'm glad I could help. Please let me know if I can help on anything still. Amir (talk) 21:43, 11 May 2026 (UTC)Reply