[llvm-dev] Code of Conduct Next Steps (original) (raw)

[llvm-dev] Code of Conduct Next Steps - Community feedback needed

Wols Lists via llvm-dev llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Wed Feb 19 02:36:27 PST 2020


On 17/02/20 22:11, Renato Golin via llvm-dev wrote:

Finally, my own personal issue is with mental health and disability. How will you make sure that someone on the committee understands (either through experience or clinical knowledge) the intricate details of the common causes of misinterpreted behaviour in non-neurotypical or with temporary/permanent poor mental health state? Not many people identify themselves as clearly as I do, but they suffer the same nonetheless. Without that covered, we may be alienating an important part of our community.

Plus one. Take a look at the recent CoC thread on lilypond-devel

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2020-02/msg00387.html

(sorry, there are several thread-breaking email clients there ... :-(

You'll see the issue there is that (a) the lead developer - an NNT - saw it (the punishment stuff) as a personal attack, and (b) that like most NNTs, his natural reaction to conflict is to walk away. The result would likely be serious collateral damage to the project.

My personal take is that if you punish someone for WHAT they are, it's discrimination. End of. Including NNTs. If someone chooses to be an asshole then ban them. But if an NNT doesn't realise it then you need to be a mentor and fix it - again, NNTs usually want to put things right.

And given that NNTs tend to be the most productive, most caring, most conscientious workers then yes you will be alienating the most important part of the community.

Cheers, Wol (self-diagnosed Aspergers)



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