[llvm-dev] Code of Conduct Next Steps (original) (raw)

[llvm-dev] Code of Conduct Next Steps - Community feedback needed

Tanya Lattner via llvm-dev llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Mon Feb 24 16:39:49 PST 2020

On Feb 17, 2020, at 2:11 PM, Renato Golin <rengolin at gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 at 17:52, Tanya Lattner via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: The LLVM Code of Conduct has been in draft mode for several years now. In order to finalize the Code of Conduct, there are 3 steps left to complete: Hi Tanya, I've added my comments to the documents, but I agree with David, we should use the standard review tools we have for text, like we did before. Google Docs not only needs agreements but it can also be confusing to review if you're not used to.

The LLVM Foundation board will propose the initial members of this committee and provide a period of time to collect feedback from members of the community. It's very important that this committee is diverse and inclusive. We should be looking for inclusion in all areas: gender, ethnicity, corporate/academia/hobbyist, sub-projects, disability, geographical location, etc. The CoC is not about code, but about behaviour and interpretation, so the committee needs to be more than just heavy coders. But it can directly affect coders, and subsequently, the code. Therefore, it also cannot be random people from the Internet, just because they have done something in other projects. They need to be directly engaged into LLVM long term, either with code, research, infrastructure, documentation, conferences, etc. I'd also be more comfortable with a large number of potential people, where sub-committees get selected as a small sub-set. If the same people make the decisions for all cases, the bias would be incredible. We need to make sure that we have enough people to be able to create sub-committees with enough members and still have a balanced (incomplete) block design, to ensure fairness. Finally, my own personal issue is with mental health and disability. How will you make sure that someone on the committee understands (either through experience or clinical knowledge) the intricate details of the common causes of misinterpreted behaviour in non-neurotypical or with temporary/permanent poor mental health state? Not many people identify themselves as clearly as I do, but they suffer the same nonetheless. Without that covered, we may be alienating an important part of our community.

I appreciate the feedback on forming the committee. I have not written down any of my thoughts yet for review, but I share many that you brought up here. I’ll try hard to be transparent as possible with this process and share more details when I have them written down.

Thanks, Tanya

cheers, --renato

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