[Python-Dev] PEP 453 (pip bootstrapping) ready for pronouncement? (original) (raw)

Donald Stufft donald at stufft.io
Fri Sep 27 20:22:50 CEST 2013

On Sep 27, 2013, at 2:14 PM, "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen at xemacs.org> wrote:

Also, I think that proponents of backporting this PEP are missing something important. Specifically, why are we encouraging the use of Python 2.7 for "new users"? Shouldn't we use this as an opportunity to say, "Move to Python 3.4 and forget the 'agony of installing pip' issue forever?"

Because reality is that new users are still likely to be using Python 2.7. Python 3 is just now starting to be really usable, however there's a huge corpus of existing tutorials, course work, books etc for Python 2.7. As Python 3 becomes more usable that existing corpus of material will be ported over to Python 3 but in the interim there is still a pretty large hurdle for new users to get over.

That's assuming that they are even able to use Python 3 and whatever they are trying to do with all of their libraries are ported to Python3. I still think Python 2.7 is a better target for new users because if you're using Python 3.x theirs a high chance you'll need to port a library or two still.

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