[Python-Dev] Drop/deprecate Tkinter? (original) (raw)

Antoine Pitrou antoine at python.org
Wed May 2 17:43:40 EDT 2018

I have no opinion about scrapping IDLE and Tkinter, but if we don't, I think his concerns deserve addressing instead of being dismissed by wielding the CoC magic wand.

Regards

Antoine.

Le 02/05/2018 à 23:41, Guido van Rossum a écrit :

So what do you think. Do you agree with the OP that Tkinter (and hence IDLE) should be scrapped?

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 2:37 PM, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net_ _<mailto:solipsis at pitrou.net>> wrote: On Wed, 2 May 2018 23:28:22 +0200 Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net <mailto:solipsis at pitrou.net>> wrote: > On Wed, 02 May 2018 21:24:07 +0000 > Brian Curtin <brian at python.org <mailto:brian at python.org>> wrote: > > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 16:55 Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev <_ _> > python-dev at python.org <mailto:python-dev at python.org>> wrote: > >  > > > As https://bugs.python.org/issue33257 <https://bugs.python.org/issue33257> and > > > https://bugs.python.org/issue33316 <https://bugs.python.org/issue33316> showed, Tkinter is broken, for both > > > Py2 and Py3, with both threaded and non-threaded Tcl, since 2002 at > > > least, and no-one gives a damn. > > > > > > This seems to be a testament that very few people are actually > > > interested in or are using it. > > > > > > If that's so, there's no use keeping it in the standard library -- if > > > anything, because there's not enough incentive and/or resources to > > > support it. And to avoid screwing people (=me) up when they have the > > > foolishness to think they can rely on it in their projects -- nowhere in > > > the docs it is said that the module is only partly functional.  > > > > > > For the future, this is not how you communicate with the development > > mailing list of any open source software project. I would suggest reading > > https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ <https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/> for some pointers on how people > > typically behave around here in particular.  > > Perhaps it would be more constructive to address the OP's point than to > play speech police. To elaborate a bit: the OP, while angry, produced both a detailed analysis and a PR.  It's normal to be angry when an advertised feature doesn't work and it makes you lose hours of work (or, even, forces you to a wholesale redesign). Producing a detailed analysis and a PR is more than most people will ever do. Regards Antoine.

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