[Python-Dev] Drop/deprecate Tkinter? (original) (raw)

Josh Stephens bsdtux at gmail.com
Wed May 2 17:56:59 EDT 2018

Hello list,

  If I may voice my opinion I would like to say that I just built an application using Tkinter using python3. I used it because it was included in python by default and I didn't have to using something like PyQT or any other framework that was heavy. While I agree that the docs can sometimes be confusing, I am not sure that it warrants tossing it out. I am not even sure that my opinion gives much weight but I figured I would just toss in a quick here is my vote and my story about using Tkinter with SqlAlchemy and Py2App to build a native Mac OS X app as of last month.

Best Regards, Josh Stephens

On May 2, 2018 at 4:46:29 PM, Antoine Pitrou (antoine at python.org) wrote:

I have no opinion about scrapping IDLE and Tkinter, but if we don't, I think his concerns deserve addressing instead of being dismissed by wielding the CoC magic wand. Regards Antoine.

Le 02/05/2018 à 23:41, Guido van Rossum a écrit : > So what do you think. Do you agree with the OP that Tkinter (and hence > IDLE) should be scrapped? > > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 2:37 PM, Antoine Pitrou > > > wrote: > > On Wed, 2 May 2018 23:28:22 +0200 > Antoine Pitrou > wrote: > > On Wed, 02 May 2018 21:24:07 +0000 > > Brian Curtin > wrote: > > > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 16:55 Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev <_ _> > > python-dev at python.org > wrote: > > > > > > > As https://bugs.python.org/issue33257 > and > > > > https://bugs.python.org/issue33316 > showed, Tkinter is broken, for both > > > > Py2 and Py3, with both threaded and non-threaded Tcl, since 2002 at > > > > least, and no-one gives a damn. > > > > > > > > This seems to be a testament that very few people are actually > > > > interested in or are using it. > > > > > > > > If that's so, there's no use keeping it in the standard library -- if > > > > anything, because there's not enough incentive and/or resources to > > > > support it. And to avoid screwing people (=me) up when they have the > > > > foolishness to think they can rely on it in their projects -- nowhere in > > > > the docs it is said that the module is only partly functional. > > > > > > > > > For the future, this is not how you communicate with the development > > > mailing list of any open source software project. I would suggest reading > > > https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ > for some pointers on how > people > > > typically behave around here in particular. > > > > Perhaps it would be more constructive to address the OP's point than to > > play speech police. > > To elaborate a bit: the OP, while angry, produced both a detailed > analysis and a PR. It's normal to be angry when an advertised > feature doesn't work and it makes you lose hours of work (or, even, > forces you to a wholesale redesign). Producing a detailed analysis and a > PR is more than most people will ever do. > > Regards > > Antoine. > > _> ________________________ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/guido%40python.org > > > > > -- > --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido )

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