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Furnace or Boiler Heat Exchanger Corrosion Leaks Causes & Prevention

Causes of corrosion failures in heat exchangers used on furnaces or boilers.

What airborne contaminants, gases, or site conditions cause rust or corrosion failures in furnace heat exchangers, boiler heat exchangers, or swimming pool heaters?

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Heat Exchanger Corrosion Failures

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This article discusses corrosion failures in both furnace heat exchangers (forced-air heating systems) that transfer heat from the heat source or burner to building air, and also boiler heat exchangers that transfer heat from the burner or heat source to water for hydronic heating or for a swimming pool heating system.

Question: could my swimming pool heater be corroded by ozone?

2018/12/31 lmaliver@comcast.net said:

I have had to replace 2 pool funaces because of corrosion of the heat exchanger which is occurring from outside-in as opposed the the usual inside-out.

I have also noted that the gas pipes in the room have external rusting.

Several propane burners in the furnace have had to be replaced.

There is no odor in the room which is separate fro the room that has the salt water pool.

The pool pump is in this room and I wondered if it could be producing ozone.

Any suggestions before I put in another new pool furnace?

This Q&A were posted originally

at ODORLESS CHEMICALS / GASES: CHECK FOR?

Reply: Ozone not likely at a salt water pool. Is chlorine in use? Salt in air is corrosive.

Ima,

I am assuming, as you use the word "furnace" (which = forced hot air heat) that you are asking about corrosion of furnaces used to heat the area in and around swimming pools (presumably indoors),

and I am assuming that you are NOT asking about a hydronic heating system (hot water boiler) used to heat swimming pool water directly).

Both types of heating equipment can suffer corrosion from chlorine: as a gas emitted from chlorinated swimming pool water that thus gives that "chlorine" smell to swimming pool rooms and nearby rooms too, or in the case of pool heaters, as chlorine dissolved in water being circulated through the pool heater.

Now about your question,

Ozone can be corrosive depending on its concentration in air and the materials with which it's in contact.

More about ozone sources, smells, effects is

at OZONE GAS PROPERTIES

It may be likely that when you have a furnace heating areas in and around a swimming pool are the effects of chlorine gas from swimming pool water, or the effects of salt in airborne moisture (at a salt water swimming pool) on the furnace heat exchangers.

While salt itself reduces bacterial contamination, salt water pools also commonlhy use chlorine disinfectant,as well as an algecide.

Keep in mind that a salt water swimming pool also produces chlorine by breaking down salt in the pool water - salt consisting of sodium Na and Chloride molecules Cl (Salt = NaCl).

So it would be helpful if you can confirm just what disinfectants are in use in your salt water swimming pools.

Also consider that salt from your pools enters the air in the area; salt in air is itself highly corrosive and could explain an "outside-in" heat exchanger corrosion problem.

Indeed some furnace manufacturers specifically warn that IF your furnace operates in an area where certain chemicals are present in the air, outside combustion air should be provided for the furnace's oil or gas burner.

Checklist of Furnace or Boiler Heat Exchanger Corrosive Gases & Chemicals

Here is an example warning list of chemicals that are likely to cause extra damage to a furnace heat exchanger

The following types of furnace installations may require OUTDOOR AIR for combustion due to chemical exposures:

If air is exposed to the following substances, it should not be used for combustion air, and outdoor air may be required for combustion:

All fuel−burning equipment must be supplied with air for fuel combustion. Sufficient air must be provided to avoid negative pressure in the equipment room or space.

A positive seal must be made between the furnace cabinet and the return−air duct to prevent pulling air from the burner area.

References on Swimming Pool Corrosion Effects on Heating Equipment

It's also possible that air circulating out of the pool area and then through the heating furnace is also so high in chlorine as to add corrosive effects on the building air side of the heat exchanger, but the IO Manual I cited suggests that manufacturers cite chlorine gas (and other chemicals) in combustion air as a more-urgent concern.

This second possibility was the one that first occurs to me in response to your question and could explain your "corrosion from the outside-in" problem in the furnaces.

It would be useful to know the brand and model of furnaces whose heat exchangers corroded away in your case and then to see what the manufacturer says about using those furnaces to heat a pool area.

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