Anti-Masonic Examples: Bill Schnoebelen (original) (raw)

Bill Schnoebelen

William J. 'Bill'Schnoebelen must be one of the world's most gullible individuals. Those in the United States and Australia have become accustomed to television fare such as "World's Dumbest..." (here's a blogwith some of them) where the most ludicrous and irrational behavior of those who **attempt**to do things that normal people would find completely stupid are shown. (Things like trying to rob a police station etc.) Even things like that notwithstanding, Mr. Schnoebelen is the one who 'takes the cake' in terms of naivet�.

He was - well, EVERYTHING!

Here's the quick run-down: he claims that he was a 'witch' (whatever his definition of that is) for some 16 years until he discovered that being a witch was evil. (He has created his own definitions whereby paganism is the same as witchcraft.)

He was a Mormon for some 5 years until he discovered their supposed evils. And he was a Mason (for 8-9 years) until he discovered that Freemasonry (he now claims) was evil as well.

Every few years, Bill seems to discover another 'evil' and, yes, he'll create a history showing how he's been involved with that and will soon have a book for sale telling you all about it while going 'on the stump' with speaking engagements. Yes, Bill is nothing if not dexterous with his beliefs and slow to find yet another 'truth' (or lucrative opportunity....).

Oh, and he claims that he's an ordained minister - although (and curious for someone who ostensibly knows things are wrong from a religious perspective) he doesn't bother to tell us in what denomination he's achieved this distinction. Who ordained you, Bill?

Update: We spoke too soon in writing above in 1999: summer, 2000 finds Bill lecturing about 'new world order' conspiracies and Biblical prophecy. In his book on Wicca, he told us how Satan was using UFOs to unite with earthlings but he's failed to provide scientific (or any other kind of) proof of that: just his opinions. We wonder if he'll tire of that in another few years when it's less 'in vogue' and give lectures on how flying saucer supporters are evil too....

If only we knew: March, 2002 found Bill with yet another money-making activity: a video titled "Israel, Islam, and Biochemical/Nuclear Terrorism" In a breathless announcement from 'Director' David Bay (who'll happily sell you a copy for just $24.95) we're told that we'll P.T.Barnum was right!"Learn thoroughly about nuclear and biochemical weapons: how terrorists use them, how to spot the first signs of attack, and how to protect your family. Learn about the three kinds of nuclear terrorist weapons: backpack dirty, backpack clean, and airburst." Now nothing we've seen in Bill's many and varied biographies indicates that he knows anything whatsoever about weapons of any kind or that he's ever had any training and/or experience in any field that would give him even the most casual tangential exposure to such knowledge. (He was never in the military even - or if he was, he's conveniently forgotten to mention it.) Needless to say, lack of subject expertise has never yet stopped Bill from trying to profit from a gullible public. Mr. Bay assures us that Bill "... speaks from the unique perspective of a former Black Magick Wizard." - life experience which undoubtedly provides some very unique insights on how to identify nuclear devices and terrorists, providing far better information than any government ever could!

And in 2007 he's figured out that he was also a vampire. It can't get any funnier than this! (See bottom of the page.) In 2014, he's still on the stump garnering speaking fees and dodging questions from all but the most gullible and adoring.

So let's take a few minutes to explore some of the contradictions and spurious claims of Mr. (Reverend?) Schnoebelen and see some of the discrepancies which cast severe doubt on the credibility of his claims.

Bill's Strange Life

[Masonry Beyond the Light](%3Ca%20href=%22http:/" title="undefined" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.amazon.com/gp/product/0937958387/ref=as%5Fli%5Fss%5Fil?ie=UTF8&tag=masonicinfocom-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399369&creativeASIN=0937958387"><img border="0" src="http://ws.assoc-amazon.com/widgets/q?%5Fencoding=UTF8&Format=%5FSL110%5F&ASI)On page 12 of his book, "Masonry Beyond the Light", Schnoebelen tells the story with great passion: reading a Jack Chick comic book, he finds Jesus. ("However, between the [Masonic] meeting and my arrival at the [Masonic] luncheon, I had made an extraordinary transition from one kingdom to another. God had moved upon my life in a miraculous way. Through a remarkable series of events I had knelt at my bedside holding a crumpled Chick tract in my trembling fingers. That tract told me that all I had to do to be acceptable in Jesus' sight was ask Him to forgive my sins and be my Lord and Savior."). According to the biography one finds on his web site, this occurred in 1984.

From his web site, we also learn that he claims to have received a Masters in Theological Studies degree from St. Francis School of Pastoral Ministry - ostensibly a Catholic College in Milwaukee - in 1980 during the time he was apparently not 'saved'. (On page 15 of his book, Schnoebelen claims "This was a time of considerable spiritual searching for me. I had been saved by Jesus while a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS), known as the Mormons." ) Ironic, isn't it?

What's more, during the time he claims to have been a "witch", he was attending Loras College in Dubuque, Iowa which bills itself as "The premier Catholic Liberal Arts College".

It gets more confusing, though:

Schnoebelen says on page 17 of his book "My own background in occultism, witchcraft and even satanism prior to joining the Mormon church had provided me with a comprehensive knowledge of occult and esoteric (hidden, high-level) Masonry and ceremonial magik."

Putting aside the dates for a moment, one must wonder: if Bill had learned these supposedly horrid things about Freemasonry, why did he then LATER decide toBECOME A MEMBER?

Is it possible he deliberately lied when he was asked if he was joining Masonry for "mercenary motives"....?

Did he WANT to be a 'bad boy' despite having been "saved by Jesus"?

Ah, the contradictions swirl. However, if he'd lie about that, what ELSE is he lying about?

The dates indicate that Schnoebelen - who left Masonry in 1984, had been a Mormon for 5 years (ostensibly 1979-84 since - as shown above - he was a Mormon when he was 'saved'). Curiously, this was during a time he was receiving a Masters in Theological Studies degree (if his claims are true) from St. Francis School of Pastoral Ministry (1980).

We think it quite odd that an individual receiving a graduate college degree in a field which would, of necessity, touch on various world religions (and, we suspect, on Freemasonry as well) would be SO confused that he couldn't discern the supposed evil in the both the religion he was then choosing and the Masonic organization of which at that time he was a member? Ostensibly Schnoebelen was a Mason for 8 or9 years - depending on which of his references you use and thus was a Mason in 1980 (1984 when he was 'saved' minus 8 or 9 years means he joined in 1975 or 1976. His theological degree was in 1980!!!)

But WAIT!!!

In his book on Wicca, he claims that _"Over the years, we advanced to the higher levels of witchcraft. Up to our departure from the city of Milwaukee in 1984, we were presiding over one of the oldest and largest networks of covens in the Midwest."_So how can this be? Schnoebelen - as we saw above - claimed to have been a Mormon at the time he was 'saved' (in 1984) and yet as this quote shows, he is claiming to be a Wiccan, notwithstanding another of his quotes that he was a 'witch' beforebeing a Mormon. With a Masters Degree in Theological Studies, did he not understand the difference between Wicca and Mormonism? Did he think he was both a Wiccanand a Mormon?

And to add EVEN MORE....

Anti-Mason Ed Decker notes that three years after Bill became a Mason, he joined "Palladium Masonry". Of course, this is absurd since there was never any such thing!!! It was an admitted HOAX created by the Leo Taxil in order to embarrass the Catholic Churchsome 80 years earlier. So here's Bill ostensibly off joining an organization that doesn't existand has been a well known hoax for almost a century... Yeah, right! (In particular, see THIS SECTION on Palladium Masonry!)

But let's suppose, just for the point of argument, that somebody really had created some such organization: Bill would certainly have mentioned joining (or planning to join) such a thing to SOMEONE in his lodge, don't you think? That person would have been quite curious about this since they'd likely never heard of it. (99.99% of Masons are probably unfamiliar with the term "Palladium Masonry" since it never existed....). SURELY it would have been pointed out to poor, gullible Bill that there was no such thing. As a Mason from Chicago wrote about this farce, "Taxil would be proud."

Ed Decker in his timeline of Bill's life notes that Bill joined the Church of Satan in 1975 and became a Master Mason in 1976. Strange that Bill could make promise "so help me God" on the Holy Bible when he was (ostensibly) a member of the Church of Satan. Unless, of course, he lied....one way or another. An internet poster has suggested that it could be because Bill actually thought that Satan was God. ---------- Think about that for a minute. If *that's* what he thought, how can anyone be sure that he knows what he's talking about now? Or, assuming that he was just 'confused' then, aren't 20++ years of confusion enough to make one wonder about whether his head's screwed on correctly now? Why should anyone believe it? Because it 'sounds good' to them now perhaps?

It seems to us as if Bill has quite a tough time distinguishing between things: dates, religions, perhaps more - and thus, we trust you'll forgive us for questioning his ability to determine what's correct and what's not about Freemasonry!

And - his website (Summer, 2000) claims that he spent seven years in the Church of Satan. When was this accomplished? Wasn't mentioned previously: perhaps Bill just forgot?

And there's yet MORE~~~

In the Summer of 2000, Bill claimed on his website that he'd been studying UFOs for nearly thirty years: as you can see from the above, this was while he was a "witch" and more.... Timelines can be SO interesting....

And, of course, we must wonder when he found time to become an expert on nuclear and biological weapons such that anyone should spend $25 to buy a video tape in which he provides information about them. Not a single mention in any of Bill's prior bios about experience with weapons or terrorism and no mention of any kind of military service whatsoever but now: an instructional videotape! Wonder what'll be next? Stock market advice? Tax preparation? A cure for hemorrhoids? The possibilities are endless.... *We note that as of 2006 Billis selling all sorts of things for the bowel and pancreas so can that hemorrhoid solution be far behind?

Indeed the possibilities ARE endless. In the summer of 2002, Mr. Schnoebelen was happy to sell you non-FDA approved health food products along with his tapes, tracts, videos and books. One, for example, was "A synergistic blend of fibers and botanicals that have been used for centuries for their cleansing properties. It works like an intestinal broom to gently cleanse and eliminate unwanted toxins and help maintain a healthy colon. This is a detoxifying, energizing and revitalizing program that can be used occasionally or on a daily basis for nutritional support." For only $39 you can have a clean colon AND support Jesus Christ by buying things from someone who will tell you how to protect yourself from dirty backpack bombs and the evil Freemasons - as well as Satan in a UFO. Truly, truly amazing....

And in December, 2003, added to Bill's biography is a line showing him to be "a Naturopathic doctor, a Nutritional Herbologist and a Certified Natural Health Professional." It'samazing that he could find the time to do a four year post-graduate science degree and some 1200 hours of clinical training to become an N.D., along with the time spent to be a 'nutritional herbologist' ($700 and few hours listening to audio tapes it appears) and getting that certification (another 75 hours) while all the time becoming an expert on dirty bombs - or is part of that bio, like his others and like his claims about Freemasonry, shading the truth ever so slightly (or gigantically)....???

And we're sure that it'll come as no surprise that he's not listed as a Naturopathic Doctor by the American Association of Naturopathic Physicians. Well, maybe he just hasn't had the time to join what with all that dirty bomb stuff to keep up-to-date on.

In the final analysis, it probably is MOST telling that when one goes to Mr. Schnoebelen's website and clicks on "Masonry" in the navigation on the left, it goes directly to his STORE!

We think that says it all about his motivation for castigating the fraternity.

Watch out for Flying Saucers!

Every time we 'surf the web', we're amazed at the new things we find out about the many and varied interests of Mr. Schnoebelen. In Fall, 2005, we found the totally discredited 'Prophecy Man'Stan Johnson plugging Mr. Schnoebelen with this advertisement. Now Bill's a "Voodoo High Priest", knows about 'Black Ops' and so much more. We can only wonder what next angst of psyche will cause Bill to admit that, yes, he was actually an expert in but just hadn't mentioned it before now. How many different things can this man have been involved with? Looks like Bill's 'hitting all the bases' these days....

Bill Schnoebelen Will be doing 2 talks on: Exposing The Illuminati from Within & The Sons of God and the Antichrist in Topeka, KS Only!Times: Doors open at 12 pm Speaking from 1 pm - 6 pm & 7 pm - 10 pm Gift of $7 suggested at the door Give what you can and bring a friend
Exposing The Illuminati from Within Bill Schnoebelen was a Satanic and Voodoo High Priest, 2nd degree Church of Satan, New Age guru, occultist, channeler, 90th degree Mason, Knight Templar, and a member of the Illuminati. Bill shows how the conspiracy works and how it uses the Lodge and the highest echelons of power and technology from secret "black project" operations to form a world government. Two, 2 hr. DVD's or VHS's. The Sons of God and the Antichrist Bill Schnoebelen has seen over 100 UFO�s and studied them for over 40 years. He was a member of National Investigations Committee on Airal Phenomena NICAP. Interviewed over 100 people who have been abducted. including Christians. Bill will show pictures of physical evidence of the Sons of God. He will explain their connections to black magic, fallen angels DNA and how it relates to the Mark of the Beast and a counterfeit Gospel. Bill says the Sons of God will reveal themselves and be a part of deceiving millions of people, including Christians, into denying Jesus.

Now we shouldn't be too glib but really: aren't Christians - according to Bill - supposed to be free from all sorts of these little inconveniences like alien abduction? Does Jesus just lose track of the aliens from time to time and allow them to snatch up his true followers? Oh, and where in the Bible did Jesus speak of the evil of aliens? Maybe in the Schnoebelen understanding thereof....

Ignore the inconsistencies

Each year we get one or two e-mails from 'supporters' (defenders) of Mr. Schnoebelen saying that while the dates he's given about his life might not match, that his message is correct.

BUT WAIT A MINUTE!

How can someone be so totally confused about their own life, what various belief systems are, how organizations work and SO much more still be considered correct about other things? Isn't this informational cherry-picking? Grab what you like to hear and try to convince others it's correct despite the fact that all evidence indicates its source sometimes doesn't know one end of the rope from the other. It staggers the imagination.

There appear to us two possible explanations:

#1 - Bill is chronically confused - but if he is, then all of his information is just as likely to be similarly confused and thus unreliable!

#2 - Bill has fibbed - and if he has, what part of what he's saying is the truth? Was he lying then or is he lying now? Do true Christians like he claims to be FIB about their life just to convince you that Jesus is the perfect source of alltruth?

Confused or fabricator: your choice - but PLEASE don't try to convince us that he knows what he's talking about when the above material SO clearly shows that he doesn't.

WAIT: HE'S NOW A VAMPIRE!

We can only conclude that Bill is now trying desperately to fund his retirement nest egg. We now learn that - in addition to everything else - this guy was also a vampire. In fact, he's got a 9 HOUR (can you believe it?) set of DVDs thatyou can buy to learn all about this previously undocumented part of his life. It would be fascinating to find out where in the scheme of things this part of his amazing life journey occurred but frankly, we're not going to waste the money to find out. One wonders, though, if this was during his stint at a Catholic College where he had to avoid crucifixes? Maybe he slept through day classes so he could fly around through the night....???

We'll let others breathlessly rave about Bill's many, many, many, many adventures in life - but we ask you: is there any such thing as a "former vampire" - and would you want to be listening to him (it) for spiritual guidance? Honestly: if you believe this stuff, folks, then there's a wonderful bridge in Brooklyn that we'll be happy to sell you quite inexpensively. P. T. Barnum was certainly right....

Oh, and those DVDs are available on his website where they seem to down-peddle this just a bit but where you shouldn't forget to stock up on that stuff for your prostrate while you're buying his baloney! NINE HOURS talking about it! Amazing that he'd never mentioned this part of his life some twenty years or more ago, isn't it? What's next, Bill?

Updated May, 2006 & February, 2007 Added link to the claim of Palladium Masonry and a great picture of Bill and his hairyness in April, 2010 and added a few details in October, 2014.

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